Where are the ads saying "a 95% pro Bush voting record isn't a Maverick it's a YES MAN. American needs a true leader not a yes man."

So you missed the Obama campaign ad that showed McCain saying that he voted 95% of the time with Bush and calling him essentially a yes man?

Perhaps they don't get to Canada.

Don't be fooled, the propaganda isn't just from the McCain campaign, most of the media is part of it, and most definitely including Salon. This "OMG Obama is losing" is part of it, as is the "he hasn't fought back at all!" nonsense. See my post earlier about polls if you like.

I moved to France myself and missed almost all the Bush years as a result, but I'm back. Time to get serious. This disengenous hand-wringing is definitely not the way to do it.

Well so now I'm not sure if it's an objection to implying that your opinion was unique or that it wasn't.

Not very important though if you really didn't care, so good.

Just for an example, Joan's vote for Obama is meaningless if she writes 3 articles a week that undermine him. You don't see Republicans doing this. They all got behind McCain as soon as

I completely agree with the first part of this, completely disagree with the second. Everything in Salon has the underlying message "See, MY candidate would have been better!" and reading it this way explains a lot of the tepid, qualified, disingenuous support even when it's expressed, always followed by at least one "But I'm concerned that..." statement.

But so on that score, this "Oh my God is McCain winning??" headline fits exactly into that pattern. It's another way of doing the same thing. Someone above cited polls showing that nothing's really changed, that McCain's cieling and Obama's floor remain just where they have been. I posted earlier showing how polls at this point are about as good as flipping a coin.

Once you debunk the entire premise here, of this article, then all of the analysis and explanations fall apart. They're meaningless.

Oh but I disagree about the Republicans. McCain has gotten a lot of slams from the right, really unusually so. One of the great things about the right wing smear monger Corsi is that he's smeared McCain just as much in the not so distant past.

I'm frustrated at the rightward drift too, that's sort of my point though. It hasn't always been the case. Things are drifting back, slowly. I suppose if you didn't experience the sixties then it's hard to get in a visceral way that they could ever be different from the past decade.

They could. They were. Believe me.

What I'm objecting to is the "always" characterization, I don't know how to put it any more plainly. The GOP won the presidency a lot in the latter part of the 20th century, for many reasons. But they didn't always. And the Dems controlling congress was so common for so many decades that they made jokes the OTHER way.

Re Clinton I just disagree. With everything. It was her spin that "working class people won't vote for Barack Obama" . Assuming that because polls showed somewhat more of them voting for her in primaries, then having her on the ticket will gain votes-- I disagree. I think the pure, raw hatred of her from the far right could ignite passion in the base that's been notably missing so far, ruining one of the great advantages we have this year, and far outweighing any gain.

Neither one of us knows, though.

Cheers

I think... the question of whether being a fighter pilot who gets shot down makes you qualified to be the President is going to haunt the dems.

Here's a fighter pilot who was shot down who disagrees with you, and Bob Schieffer, and all the rest. Worth a read.

http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,164859_1,00.html

Yes, I know, you're (perhaps) pushing the "Yes but that's what THEY will all think, all those morons out there" but I don't think they're all like that.

Regarding your second point:

Obama doesn't even know what the meaning of competition and experience mean to someone at McCain's level.

This one is really silly. Obama's done amazingly well for someone who doesn't know the meaning of competition. "Levels", so let's see, Chicago politics, that would be what level, now?

The "no experience" lie lives on, left, right, and center.