Letters to the Editor
Tyler_Mason
Published Letters: 488 Editor's Choice: 41
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@elephantman hunters
[Read the article: Why did Gonzales resign?]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]You don't help your arguments by bashing conservatives in general and trumpeting your belief that we're all the same. As soapboxpolitico wrote: "We are dealing with complex people and complex issues." and then later in the paragraph: "we draw conclusions based on all the available evidence." So, please, use the evidence to draw conclusions about individuals, not demographics.
Other than that, my conclusion is that elephantman is trolling today. No need to rise to the bait.
I'm a bit surprised by the resignation. fredo could have lied and stonewalled for a very long time.
My theory is that impeaching fredo would have made fantastic theater for the dems. The GOP couldn't abide by it. Imagine if all those dems suddenly appeared righteous, pugnacious, and on the side of law. People might actually forgive them for squirming on the ground begging for a presidential belly rub.
Will fredo get a presidential pardon? I think he won't until the very end. They didn't pardon scooter. I think they want to keep some leverage over him. That is kinda rovian though.
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I doubt
[Read the article: Quote of the Day]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]I doubt bush could find the words. He's still working through My Pet Goat. Maybe fredo said "sound it out Mr. President".
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@soapboxpolitico
[Read the article: Why did Gonzales resign?]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]To summarize your points: Every movement needs its brown shirts. I heartily agree. I'd just rather have 'em waiting in the beer hall. They certainly add fervor and physical momentum to a cause, but they add little to a debate.
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I'm confused
[Read the article: What Larry Craig admitted]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Firstly, Craig's documented acts in the stall could be the first phases of a drug buy. Or something else. There's no there there. He should have fought the charges because they wouldn't have stuck.
Secondly, hypocrisy. I don't know if Craig is more hypocritical than the dog pile that is demonizing him. Interesting that the urge to pile on is uniting both the left and right wing radicals. Lefties hate the republican, righties hate the perverts. A "republican pervert" is a perfect storm..
Yes, Craig presents himself as a family values repug. That is not inconsistent with being bi/gay. He could truly believe that he himself should not be legally entitled to marry a man but instead should marry a woman and raise children with her. In this case, his hypocrisy is cheating, not being gay.
He may be bi and believe that only his long term hetero relationship should be protected by law.
He may believe that God made him gay as a test. Kind of like when Job was tested.
Admittedly, most of the gay men that marry women and raise children are not arch conservatives because having an open relationship tends not to be a right wing trait. Regardless, an open relationship never stops people from loving their kids, taking them to church, and trying to instill some type of moral compass.
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Please explain
[Read the article: Rogers: Craig "should be open and honest"]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Why must every homosexual be against DOMA etc? Is it to support fellow gays or because every gay must want a homosexual marriage?
Is it possible for a gay man to sincerely believe that he should marry a woman and raise a family? Is it also possible for that gay man to believe that only heterosexual child producing couples should be enjoy the label "married"?
Yes, I know the counter arguments. Gays can (could?) adopt. Many straight couples can't bear children. etc etc
I'm just wondering if Craig's conservative beliefs can be internally consistent with his orientation. A lot of what I'm reading essentially says that a gay man must hold certain beliefs.
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@J. Mandel
[Read the article: What Larry Craig admitted]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Good points. I was concentrating on what Craig's voting record and not his image building/maintenance. I agree that if he says gay sex is wrong, criminal, and deplorable whilst have cum breath, he is a hypocrite.
As for the demonizers. The hypocritical right wingers are those doing the push-pull thing by claiming Craig sexual escapades are not an issue and then saying he should resign.
The hypocritical left wingers are those who claim to be open minded and not homophobic but appear to have a preconceived notion of what laws and what life style every gay man should seek. As liberals, they seek to define all gays as liberal. As such they also think that a gay republican is worse than any other republican because he doesn't support those gay liberal ideals as well as not supporting other liberal ideals.
15 years ago, I too thought gay implied liberal. I was wrong. I know a lot of out and proud gay conservatives. Even a neocon or two. No christian fundies though(yet). Have a few drinks with a log cabin republican. Odds are you'll find a very nuanced and fascinating individual who disagrees with you about a lot of things.
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guilty plea
[Read the article: Craig to address guilty plea in Boise]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]A guilty pea does infer an admission that every element of the charged crime was violated. However, there are defenses against it like coercion, failure to understand the charges, etc. So, a guilty plea can be taken back but it can still serve as evidence.
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@mizbinkley
[Read the article: Rogers: Craig "should be open and honest"]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Do you believe that every gay who is not openly out is self loathing? If not, how about those who are out to family, friends and adult children but not to the community?
Also, do you believe that a gay supporting DOMA loathes everybody or just himself?
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@Queer National
[Read the article: Rogers: Craig "should be open and honest"]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Please don't misinterpret me.
Yes, a lot of what I'm reading in these forums implies a perception of "core gay beliefs". I by no means support that perception. I'm glad you don't either. I wish no one supported it, but a lot of the people posting in these forums seem to think that Craig is gay and must therefor believe and support certain things. They then point out the hypocrisy of his voting record because it doesn't align with what they want.
As mizblinky pointed out, it isn't his conservatism that's the problem, it's his high horse.