And start telling Obama what YOU will do if the Democrats can't pass real health care reform with 60 votes in the Senate.

I for one under such circumstances would be very willing to consider leaving the Democrats and joining a second party. I think such a party would have a real chance of competing with the Democrats while also pushing the now utterly failing Republicans completely out of the two party system. The two party system would then be the new Democrats against the old Democrats and such a division would move the country from being center right to center left--to everyone's benefit.

If healthcare reform is not THE existional issue for the Democratic party, then what is? The Democrats have been promising health care reform for 60 years now. If they can't deliver now, when can they deliver? If we Democratic supporters can't demand health care reform from the Democratic party, then what can we demand?

Health care reform HAS to be the make or break issue for a liberal party. If the Democrats can't or won't deliver on this 60 year promise, then they have no right to be the liberal party. If there is no liberal party, then a new one needs to be formed. Let the Democrats be the conservative party, as so many of them apparently seem to wish they were.

Let's never mind what Obama does or doesn't do. He's only a president, after all, just another politician shifting with the wind, however able and decent he might be. Instead, let's worry about what WE who support health care for everyone should do. And what we should do right now is make it clear to the Democratic party that this issue of health care reform is nothing less than make or break time for them. They HAVE to pass health care reform this time, this year, or else.

What if the Democratic party, after Ronald Reagan was elected in 1980, had decided to claim that Ronald Reagan was a neo-Nazi commie socialist fascist who wasn't even Ronald Reagan but somebody in a Ronald Reagan rubber mask?

Do you think the Democratic party would have come back after that? I don't think so. I think it would have been the end of the Democratic party. I don't think anyone would have taken the Democratic party seriously again.

There are some things you just can't walk back from and the Republican party seems be to almost revelling in its own birdbath of the crazy.

...Science will discover the location of the hole in the head that causes all of this birther nonsense.

It's likely at the conjunction of the racist hole with the 'I can believe whatever stupid thing I wish to believe' hole.

...not $25.00! I can't believe they cost more than 25 cents to make.

Seemed to be the perfect shoe for the country that went to war but didn't know why.

Obama is simply a politician who can only do what is politically possible and can't do what isn't. If healthcare reform fails, it will be the second time under two different Democratic presidents that it failed. The conclusion has to be that the problem is political, not personal.

The political problem is that the Democratic party just doesn't have a backbone. It doesn't have a direction and it doesn't stand for a principle. It doesn't have any serious argument it cares to make out loud with the Republican philosophy of governence. The Democratic party just wants to get elected and re-elected and it cares about nothing else. Such a party won't go to the mat in defense of healthcare reform if it looks like doing so will put their re-elections in jeopardy. That was true in 1994, when the hapless and directionless Democrats were routed by the Republicans, and it's true now.

If we want healthcare reform, the Democratic party needs to get a backbone fast. Such a backbone can only come from liberal voters who will insist that healthcare reform be passed or they will walk and form a new party. It has to be healthcare reform or else. We have to insist that if the Democratic party can't pass healthcare reform with 60 votes in the senate, then there is no hope that the Democratic party as it stands will ever be able to pass healthcare reform.

If WE won't go to the mat on this, then why should the Democratic party? If there is no pressure on the Democratic party from the left, then all the pressure on them will be from the right and the right will always win. Liberals voters need to start making real demands on the Democratic party. We need to start taking names and breaking balls. We need to stop apologizing for being liberals and start making the case for liberal government. And if need be, we need to form a new party if the Democrats won't respond to us. The Democrats need to understand that this is make or break time for them. This issue is that important.

Otherwise I just don't see any way that real healthcare reform will ever come to pass in this country. Wishing, waiting, hoping, dreaming, never will work and never has. If we want healthcare reform to happen, we have to MAKE it happen.

Let's hear this word, 'unacceptable,' a whole lot more. And let's say it more, too!

When 58 percent of Republicans don't even believe that the president of the United States is a citizen, NOW is the time to start saying words like 'unacceptable.'

Even with the frown I thought Charlie Chaplin, not Hitler.

And that's a compliment, Chaplin was a wonderfully intelligent person.

"The Right Against Obama, 2009-2016"

Great title for a future history book, eh?