Those rants are in other spots and many of the people who rant against Spitzer, rant against Bush/Cheney.

I personally wish those two had JUST defiled their marriages and cheated on their wives and made a "good" expample of what men are for their daughters.

But they didn't - they saved that for the American people and our laws.

However - Spitzer is trying to get back in the game - redeem himself complete with the loving stand by your man wife photo ops.

Would I vote for him? Depends on who he was running against. But all things being equal? No way in hell. Anyone who treats his wife, his daughters and quite frankly the girl he bought so he didn't have to think of her as a human - no - as a female I will not vote for a man who treats my gender as mere props for the Big Man's life. He is still doing it - Silda is his prop for his restored career. (Leave for another time the discussion of why intelligent attractive talented women stay with men who treat them so poorly)

So, unless he was running against a Bush/Cheney type, no, I won't vote for Spitzer.

Okay - but how many times are we, as a country, going to let go and "move forward"?

We let go and moved forward with Nixon. We let go and moved forward with Iran-Contra. We are now to let go and move forward with torture/spying on citizens/Iraq/Plame/etc?

Perhaps if we had bit the bullet and followed through with Nixon we would have people in that party thinking twice about breaking the law - or twisting it into the mess we had under Bush/Cheney.

Until we make a choice to follow through instead of moving forward, all politicos with agendas will learn is that if you are going to break prostitute our laws to their goals, do it in as BIG a way possible, becasue the American people will just passively prefer to "move forward"

Just a thought.

@dan nils

Misread you.

Yes - if we do nothing and DON'T move forward - we create an untouchable government (unless a BJ is involved)

I think the koolaid is what ever is being said that women "must" do to be, you know, real women.

To me, it feels like society, all of us that make up society, are really uncomfortable with what ever women are doing. Breastfeeding/formula, SAHM/working mother, sexually active/celebate, children/childfree, early/later motherhood, the list seems endless. Monotonous except for the message that what ever you are doing - it's wrong - and someone will be there to tell you.

I hate the whole breastfeeding controversy and everytime something comes up - it always dissolves into one. Sort of like the whole working/nonworking mother issue.

@mmm

A country that spends billions to make every sidewalk taper to ease wheelchairs can certainly offer men the right to have sex without becoming fathers.

I'm right there with you buddy!

I can't wait for men to demand they put on a condom before sex. Insist upon it! Refuse to have sex with out one on! This will be so cool when the day comes that men make birth control a personal responsibility.

And when men's groups form political groups and pressure the drug companies to come up with chemicals and hormones to inject into their bodies to eliminate the chance of creating a child accidentally. And I think it would be fuckintastic when technology has been advanced to the point that a fertilized egg can be implanted somewhere in the male body for gestation and birth. Why leave all that work to women. So glad men like you want to share the responsibility and joy and fear that we women have been selfishly hoarded since forever.

That is what you mean, right?

Everyone likes having a clean organised space with good food available working with their time schedule.

We never really notice it when it is there for us - just when it is not. That is the nature of homemaking and why it is underappreciated. It's only noticed in the negative.

We all like a clean home - who really likes to scrub the toilet?

Daughters and sons should be trained to keep their home: Clean up after themselves, feed themselves, take care of organisation. It will help them as an adult. Homemaking though - not as much a profession as a division of labour.

I don't side with the school though, or the mother. I think the whole take your kid to work should be abolished. Only office/cube jobs really can handle this and most of the time the kid is bored quickly and the parent either has them do homework, colouring, or goes home early.