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Thrasher
[Read the article: Labor war on drugs]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]yes you did, you've beeen seeing it here, right here,in this message board. The Bonds apologists are legion here (esp. the "who cares about steroids anyways?" argument.) I can appreciate that you need to ignore this fact to maintain the validity of your argument, but c'mon man...there are many, many Bonds supporters who post here regularly...you know that.
Regardless, your argument here is really REALLY flimsy. I note now that Bonds apologists have shifted from "who care about steroids?" to "he's been unfairly targeted because he's black". Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt that his race has something to do with it..but not ALL of it. Also note that Bonds apologists are now FINALLY conceding that the dude is guilty. It's a classic deflection, and has been pretty amusing to watch to be honest.
Whatever, I don't know why I bother, you'll just reply with a rambling incoherent mess that will say any combination of the following:
1)Aaron was an Unlce Tom
2)Ruth is a bum because he didn't play against blacks (which is by far the most tenuous argument I've ever heard in my life)
3) how apparently you have legions of fans (somewhere apparently)
4) King is Jewish so his opinions don't count somehow
5) A disingenious tip of the cap to the Natives and
6)some truly mind-boggling grammar and sentence structure.
Actually Thrasher, I was going to compliment you on the last post you made in the Vick message board. While I disagree with everything you said, you at least presented your argument in a coherent fashion...so kudos.
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my turn: a reply ;)
[Read the article: Labor war on drugs]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]So Thrasher,
I see you've reverted to your "venom" argument...did you actually read what I said? I actually complimented you on your last post about Vick, but whenever someone disagrees with you, it's blind hatred that causes it isn't it? Disagreement isn't "venom", but you know that...you just like to deflect. As for Bonds, can you actually refute my claims that he has numerous supporters, as proved by this discussion board?
one other thing, what in god's name is "existential prose"? I mean, you don't really sound like Camus to me...but what do I know? I lack depth apparently.
does Thrasher remind anyone else of that character in Cat's Cradle? The elevator operator who grabs his ass and yells "YES!YES!YES!" whenever he feels he makes a good point?
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nice try pal
[Read the article: Labor war on drugs]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]but I'm not white, I'm native (remember us? you throw around our legacy all the time) and Acadien (look em up...you'll be amazed)
ohhh...the argument goes down in flames!!!
a bientot
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well
[Read the article: King Kaufman's Sports Daily]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]I might be in the minority here, but I still think that this report was worth the time. For one, the sheer number of marginal players implicated suggests to me that these guys were holding on to their big league jobs for dear life. It's fairly obvious that they wouldn't have had the jobs if not for the PEDs, which means that they were taking the jobs that ostensibly clean minor leaguers could have had...and that's just criminal. Then again, it also stands to reason that if players like Gregg freaking Zaun were buying steroids then alot of those borderline players in AAA probably are as well, and that just goes to show how endemic this really is. It's not as if baseball players get into the majors and say "well, time to ramp up the HGH and/or Roids and start breaking me some records!"
Moving forward, it seems pretty clear to me that blame will have to be shouldered by players and teams alike for any future charges. What needs to be implemented is a sort of compliance department for each and every team. You have people on the payroll whose sole job is to make sure that the employees of that team (the players) follow the rules. Every single financial institution has one of these, and if a broker breaks the law, both he and the company are fined heavily. The same rules should apply to baseball. Any future players found to have taken PEDs will be fined and suspended AND the team will take a financial hit, rising with each subsequent conviction.
Also, there needs to be more players like Frank Thomas, who are willing to break through The Code of Silence and stand up for the game and their reputations...Frank Thomas is about the only person who came out of this whole mess looking good.
and lastly, wasn't every player named told so beforehand and given the opportunity to help with the investigation? Wouldn't you do everything in your power to not let anyone besmirch your name if you were actually clean? Why didn't anyone offer to help? And along the same point - there is nothing stopping the named players from suing for the moon here...except of course the whole testifying under oath, and subpoenas and everything that goes along with it...think that's why Clemens is not suing the pants off of baseball?
Saying that the players have no recourse isn't exactly accurate, they do..but it would mean they'd be beholden to the rules that go along with civil litigation - I'll hazard a guess that most don't want to do that.
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a christmas miracle!
[Read the article: King Kaufman's Sports Daily]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Well how 'bout that? Thrasher and I actually agree on something!
You're right, it IS criminal, and it IS wealthy white institutions making big BIG money off poor black athletes, offering them an "education" in return.
Curt Flood's assessment is apt here...
(i guess if you and I can agree on something there's hope yet in Israel and Palestine :)
cheers!