Something that I am continually frustrated by is the argumentum ad nauseum that it was somehow the fault of the dirty fucking hippies that there were problems in the Democratic Party, or the US, in the 60's and 70's. The dirty fucking hippies were not the ones who nominated or supported George Wallace. The dirty fucking hippies were not the ones who supported a police riot at the 1968 democratic convention. The dirty fucking hippies were not the ones who lied our country into the escalation of an unwinnable war in violation of treaty and international law in Southeast Asia. The dirty fucking hippies were not the ones who manuevered to have the Democratic Party contribute the most transparently reluctant support to a presidential candidate from a major party in American history. The dirty fucking hippies were not the ones who shot Medgar Evers or Martin Luther King; were not the ones who rioted when James Meredith had the temerity to want to get a fucking college education in his home state at a school that bore the name; did not savagely beat, burn, and intimidate passengers on a bus whose sole affront was that they were attempting to participate in a society where human was more important than white or black or man or woman.

The quote you use from Jonathan Chait is completely illustrative of the type of mentality of which I speak. These are exactly the sorts of fanatics who tore the party apart in the late 1960s and early 1970s. They think in simple slogans and refuse to tolerate any ideological dissent.

Yes - slogans like "Make Love Not War" and "All we are saying is give peace a chance" were the real problems in the 60's and 70's - not a completely dishonest war policy; widespread and rampant government abuse of domestic intelligence gathering powers; or our unconscionable behavior towards black people trying to exercise such revolutionary rights as sending their children to a decent school, voting for a democratic represenatative, or standing up for your family without being shot. Oh, or access to an abortion without having to risk your life becasue that is one medical proedure that cannot be performed in a proper medical facility. life liberty and the pursuit of happiness - unless you are a Negro, or a dirty fucking hippie, in which case it apparently reads, sit down, shut up, and put out that fucking joint.

These people are the ones who want to lecture me about the lack of civility in modern discourse. Maybe if they would stop fucking lying so much, I would think about fucking listening to them.

I don't have any problems if someone wants to espouse a conservative viewpoint; if you think that government is not the way to improve societal woes, and find the traditional Liberal agenda to be oppressive, burdensome, and inefficient - fine. But don't try and tell me that societal woes don't exist, or that some poorly planned or executed program or failed policy caused them in the first place.

Sorry for the rant. Just got on my nerves.

Why people like William Timberman left

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I haven't been keeping up with the comments on here for a while (stupid job!), and had noticed that I hadn't seen any comments from him for a while, but didn't realize that he had actually stopped commenting here.

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While Rachel Maddow getting her own show is a good thing, finding out that WT is no longer commenting here is not.

I had acutally gone a few months without a Coulter reference popping up on my radar.