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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Ellis Diablo
Published Letters: 164 Editor's Choice: 2
When it's time to decide whether we should bring World War III (or, more accurately, the new Crusades) fully into the open and start dropping bombs on Iran?
The 72 year-old John "Let 'Em Rip" McCain?
Hillary "I Was Fooled into Voting for the Iraq War by the Political Mastermind George W. Bush" Clinton?
Or the only serious candidate who openly and vocally opposed the Iraq war right from the beginning?
This year's election might be the most important of our generation. Stop the madness--don't vote for more of the same.
Barack Obama '08
"Instead of the group hug approach, let's focus on tangible goals: fostering youth leadership, working from the margins in and using intersectionality as our lens -- instead of just a talking point."
Don't forget the ameliorative effect of an approach that utilizes disparate intergenerational currents, within a cross-cultural dynamic, in order to precipitate a palliative precursor to true social change among our key demographics.
"Will they tell us what it is about her that makes them her hate her more than war, war, and more war? I know they'll deny misogyny because that's too politically incorrect."
Have you lost it, brother? Do you not follow the news? She voted FOR the Iraq war. Hillary Clinton sided WITH George W. Bush on the most important foreign policy issue--and the most tragic foreign policy mistake--for America in over thirty years.
"Is it her moral deficiency since she forgave her husband? Is it something else about her morals, or her campaign, or some other "political" gaff she committed--that McCain didn't that makes him more viable--even though he has clearly gotten into bed with the intolerant."
While I admit that I personally do not approve of the fact that she continued a marriage of political convenience after her husband made a very public mockery of their marriage, no, that is not my reason for excoriating her.
Hillary is PRO-war, period. Voting for her would be no different than voting for McCain, as regards this most crucial of issues.
That is why I would sit out the election if she gets the nomination over Obama. There really is no other reason.
"And when women attack her stance on women's issues (ridiculous) and say -- just not "that woman" -- they completely disregard that "that woman" is the only woman who could get that far in over 200 years -- for a reason."
Yes, "that reason" being that she stayed in a loveless marriage with a two-timing huckster so she could ride his coattails to a political career of her own.
What a fine example for feminists everywhere. If you marry a brilliant male politician and allow him to humiliate you in public with a woman your daughter's age, maybe you can aspire to hold his former job someday!
Stand by your man, Hillary. I hope it's worth it.
"If you were her, the frontrunner in a country that fucking loves war, and you want to be President of the United States, and you have been lied to about WMDs"
Lied to? You can sell that ice cream on the other side of the street, friend. I was alive way back in 2002, and I knew, as did many other "low-level civilians," that the Bush administration, and the obsequious CIA cretins attempting to appease it, were feeding us a complete line of shit regarding the dire threat posed by Saddam Hussein's massive Iraqi military capabilities.
If I was able to figure it out, so surely should such a brilliant lady as Hillary.
"and you can't prove if they're right or wrong publicly, and you haven't been able to count on Americans who are supposedly anti-war to vote in the past, who do not understand party loyalty, and you realize a centrist position is the one that doesn't expose your ass to a swarm of flies who refuse to vote for anybody called the "Viet Nam" generation, you go with the flow."
I'm starting to feel silly for even responding to your rambling idiocy.
"Party loyalty?" Talk about party loyalty to the families of the US soldiers and Iraqi civilians who' are now dead because of Hillary and Dubya's war.
Talk about "party loyalty" to the US children who will grow up with a dearth of public services such as education, health care, transportation, domestic security, etc. because they will have to shoulder a trillion-dollar bill for the Glorious Liberation of Iraq.
"I know, it's still immoral! It's horrible to think a woman especially could be so competitive--but I have news for you: pacifists don't get far in the U.S. of A. They have even been known to be sent to jail. But thank God we have self-righteous individuals like you to keep us on the straight and narrow."
I'm no pacifist. I can think of plenty of wars I could get behind. For instance, I could definitely support an armed insurgency of American citizens attempting to reclaim Washington DC from the choke hold of overfed Bush-bots and Clinton-groupies.
Nonetheless, Hillary's vote for the Iraq war, whether out of ignorance or political calculation, or "party loyalty," absolutely was immoral.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
219 Democrats and one Republican join in favor of the legislation, which passed by a narrow margin
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Salon headlines in your mailbox
