ever been involved in a rape trial?

Do you have ANY idea how hard it is for a woman to get a rape conviction?

Do you know what kinds of personal, invasive questions she faces on the stand, or how her character is attacked by defending lawyers?

Do you have any idea how a woman who tries to file a rape complaint is treated by the police?

Believe me, it takes a lot more than just an assertion of rape to prove rape.

But you know all that. What you are trying to say is that women's perception of rape and what constitutes consent shouldn't matter; what should matter is what MEN think about it.

But men don't rule the world any longer. Women have a say in issues that concern them, and that includes rape. If you don't like that, I'm sorry. Wait, no I'm not. I'm not at all.

You can go jump off a cliff.

"Men continue to take this shit..."

Tell me, what actions should men be taking? How should men be beating those nasty bitches down? What are the specifics?

I wonder if your girlfriend is aware of this side of your personality or if you hide it from her.

I'm betting the latter.

According to the men here, the only thing a woman needs to do is cry "rape" and people fall all over themselves trying to put some poor guy in jail. According to them, the deck is unfairly stacked against men because women are always believed. Here's the truth.

I was involved with the police because a man had knocked me down and knifed me in the throat to take my purse. Sometime in the course of that case, one of the officers, a young fairly nice guy, told me that he had just been on campus for another case. A young woman had called the police and said a foreign student living in the dorms had raped her.

The officer concluded that she had had sex with the man with the idea that he would be her boyfriend, and when she found out she was deceived in this idea she cried rape and called the police to get back at him.

How did you know this? I asked the officer.

"We went to the guy and asked him", said the officer.

After getting HIS version, they basically went back to the girl and browbeat her into retracting the charge, mostly by threatening her with what would happen should she be unable to prove rape in a courtroom.

She hadn't been to the hospital, had a rape kit done, or called the police soon after what she said was an attack. So her allegation was toast, basically.

Now, maybe the man's version of the story was correct. I don't know; I don't know the woman; maybe she was a psycho. I'm going to take a biiiiiiig leap of faith here and say that the police knew what they were doing.

But I questioned the officer a little further and it seemed that the police had decided they did not want to be bothered with filing a rape case that was hard to substantiate. The officer's basic argument was that the girl's story could not be proven, so she should not waste anybody's time with it.

So they basically said to her, "You aren't credible enough. This isn't going to go anywhere. So rack it up to experience and drop the charges, and save us the bother."

This is what a date rape victim who has to deal with the police really goes through. It's no wonder so many of them choose to remain silent.

If the police don't treat date rape on campuses seriously and try to actively talk women out of filing charges, how can you go and say there is some great big conspiracy to unfairly persecute men by crying rape? What reward do women get out of it? It is harrowing to try to get a rape case brought to court. A woman is discouraged from even trying to do so from the get go.

I think this is one of the dark fantasies of paranoid men that gets blown much out of proportion. Cases in which false accusations are filed that actually get anywhere must be very exceptional. And many, many rapes go unpunished because the woman decides that she is not strong enough to bear the scrutiny at every step of the way.

You men have a sweet deal, actually. I have no doubt that the great, great majority of rapes never get as far as a call to the police. The deck is too stacked against the victim. So what would you guys want to change? It's already all in your favor.

"A woman can destroy a man's life with a word..." In what universe? I know many women who have been unambiguously raped, violently, or by strangers, or in the parking lot or whatever. But I don't know one woman who was successful in putting the man who did it in jail, and most of them never filed charges.

So what universe are you living in?

that's all.

I am absolutely not going to get drawn into a Duke discussion.

All of those young already wealthy young men are going to be even wealthier once they get done suing all and sundry for besmirching their lily white "We want to skin a stripper alive" reputations. They'll never have to work a day in their lives.

The stripper, who's an impoverished drug addict with a very risky lifestyle, will end up dead in a ditch, of course. All's right in the world.

I mean, the system worked. Case never went to trial. What more do you want?