The articles on Salon vary in quality as we have seen. The quality could be uniformly much better. There's nothing wrong with pointing that out. And saying that an article is a waste of bandwidth is not the same thing as saying it should be banned. And I'm sure reviewing any book with a title like "Liberals are Nazis" falls into that category.

Anybody should have the freedom to write it, and the rest of us should have the freedom to mock it and laugh it out of the room. Loudly, rudely, and noisily. Some things do not deserve polite discussion.

seriously.

I can't believe there are people here (women I guess) who are giving all kinds of advice on how to live with a bully, and even writing things like "Bullies are not bad people".

You know what? Yes, they are.

Life is hard enough for women without being married to controlling, belittling bastards. The only way these men are going to learn to behave is if they are ALONE for a good long time.

Life is too short to be dancing around a person who will pick on you over an issue like this, or any issue, really. You deserve better, and he deserves nothing. DTMFA.

It's still here.

What's she saying in Urdu? Looks like it was lifted from a Bollywood song.

Not that it probably means anything.

Why is it that the men are never asked to exercise restraint?

We never see an article saying a man should keep his shirt on, avoid getting drunk, not "put himself" in a situation where his intentions might be misunderstood as aggression.

Why don't we?

You'd think it would be a no-brainer, that teaching men to exercise restraint would be more effective than telling women that, since the men are the actors in this situation.

Hopefully tons and tons of successful rape prosecutions will make men afraid of getting pushy with women. Win-win situation.

BTW you guys here who are saying women are just repressed and should enjoy sex more are SO not getting it. Do you even understand that we aren't talking about sex, but rape?

to rape women...according to Brightstar.

I'll let some of the other posters take you apart. I'm not even interested any more.

It does seem strange that for an international spy who knocked out another of the same with one little 'ole slap that she's helpless in jail.

But nothing in the strip makes any sense. To keep from going crazy she has to recite her foreign language skills in her head...you'd think she was in there for years...but then...after ONE night...

she's also already out (employing a well-worn cliche as usual). Next week she'll be somewhere else, probably without the mysterious Marie, who like Beni and Schlomo and lobster guy Joe will just drop off the face of the earth with no explanation.

It's no use thinking about it. It's just *stoopid*. Which is not okay if it's not funny, because if it's neither funny nor smart that effectively destroys the only two reasons for its existence.

It's really badly drawn this week too. Lazy is the only word that comes to mind.

is this Marie character doing floating around inside the prison, in a theatre cape no less?

If its an exercise in abusrdity its not going far enough, and if its not then this is just...absurd. No excuse for it either way.

Both Amerigo and Bad Religon, and one of the Anons, has written in the beginning of the thread that women are crying rape because they are too sexually repressed to enjoy the advances of men who have no desire to do anything other than use them for sex. Yes, it was distrubing and it gave me a headache to read it. Apparently if we gals would just loosen up and freely dispense all the recreational fucking men want there would be no rape. That was how I understood it.

Amerigo's stance is predicated on moral contempt of people who drink and use drugs. Can't agree with him there, although I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs either, even prescription.

The people who arguing for the existence of gray rape keep going back to the "booze haze" because it's the only circumstance in which their views appear even remotely defensible. I would direct them back to the poster who worked as a campus sexual assault counselor. She said that the "booze haze" scenario didn't come up all that often.

I would guess that with men like these around most college girls who are raped while drunk are staying quiet out of shame and being badgered to say they weren't "really" raped by people like Amerigo.

I'm going to start calling this the Booze Haze excuse. Never mind that while alcohol may lower inhibitions, it doesn't turn you into a completely different person. A girl who doesn't want it is still a girl who doesn't want it, and guy forcing her is still forcing her and therefore a rapist. I don't know how the booze excuses any of that.

Okay guys, let's take the booze out of it, does "gray rape" still exist?

I'm going to predict that you all say "yes". Let's just see how far down this road you are willing to go.

You said if the man was drunk he was not a predator, that being raped by a drunk is not the same thing as being raped by a "true" predator, and that girls who are assaulted after drinking do not have your sympathy. You said all those things, and yes, the letters are there for all to see, and others have pointed out what was wrong with them.

I take any and all criticisms you may have of me as a sign that I'm doing something right. Rot in hell.