I have not engaged in sex work personally, if that is the "miserable experience" you are trying to refer to...but thanks for trying to drag it down to, "just a disgruntled employee" level.

This is not something that people *without experience* should make comments about. It's a very personal thing, one former (very traumatized) prositute referred to it as "giving him permission to rape" since sex workers are really being coerced into the activity by their need for money and don't want the sex at all. And coercion is coercion, no love or enjoyment there, it is not good or acceptable or okay.

I have not engaged in sex work personally, if that is the "miserable experience" you are trying to refer to...but thanks for trying to drag it down to, "just a disgruntled employee" level.

This is not something that people *without experience* should make comments about. It's a very personal thing, one former (very traumatized) prositute referred to it as "giving him permission to rape" since sex workers are really being coerced into the activity by their need for money and don't want the sex at all. And coercion is coercion, no love or enjoyment there, it is not good or acceptable or okay.

I have not engaged in sex work personally, if that is the "miserable experience" you are trying to refer to...but thanks for trying to drag it down to, "just a disgruntled employee" level.

This is not something that people *without experience* should make comments about. It's a very personal thing, one former (very traumatized) prositute referred to it as "giving him permission to rape" since sex workers are really being coerced into the activity by their need for money and don't want the sex at all. And coercion is coercion, no love or enjoyment there, it is not good or acceptable or okay.

I have not engaged in sex work personally, if that is the "miserable experience" you are trying to refer to...but thanks for trying to drag it down to, "just a disgruntled employee" level.

This is not something that people *without experience* should make comments about. It's a very personal thing, one former (very traumatized) prositute referred to it as "giving him permission to rape" since sex workers are really being coerced into the activity by their need for money and don't want the sex at all. And coercion is coercion, no love or enjoyment there, it is not good or acceptable or okay.

there ya go! proof positive! He saw it on TV!

As to the one who argues that 1st world prostitutes and 3rd world prostitutes are not comparable...up to a point, up to a point. Most Western hookers are drug addicts and thus barred from other employment...so much for "choice".

God, I can't believe I'm on a thread of otherwise well-educated, intelligent, articulate people arguing again and again that PAYING an otherwise unwilling person (who is likely to be weak and vulnerable in a hundred other ways as well) to have sex with you is wrong. What gives?

Let's put it this way, would you be happy knowing your daughter was working as a hooker? Your mom? What would it take to drive you to that yourself? It'd be pretty extreme, right? Look inside yourselves, folks. Personalize it.

People in nonpenetrative sex work seem to have a less negative experience than true hookers. Susan Powter used to be a stripper and she's a pretty tough cookie. So I think we can say it's not a comparison.

I post under my real name, so I can't divulge everything, but if you think I'm basing my comments on just one person, myself or somebody else, you are incorrect. But like I said, just THINK about it a little, and you'll get it. Maybe.

now you are being deliberately just dumb. Grow up a little bit.

to get these guys, so yeah, maybe the discussion would go differently on a British discussion board. You can keep it.

I lived five years in Europe and I find that the much flaunted European "free thinking" as regards sex as opposed to American "prudery" is pretty much a myth, btw.

I strongly suspect that sex tourism involving black men--even in Thailand (!) has something to do with the racist stereotype of the large and extra virile African male. This makes it even nastier and ickier.

As to Aaaron's last point, that if his mother had to work as a hooker he'd "respect her sexuality".....prostitution is not an expression of sexuality, which involves desire, but a repression of it. A woman constantly has to repress her sexual desire in order to do the deed with whoever asks for her, rather than with who she would prefer (a true expression of her sexuality).

Then he again pounces on the canard of respecting free choice, forgetting that prostitution is what is left when other choices have run out, because it is dangerous, dirty, socially reviled "work". It's like saying that letting your house go into foreclosure after you lose your job is a "choice". Oh wait. People do say that...

To me it's a really basic requirement, that who I have sex with should also want to sleep with me. When that wanting is absent, what is left...some kind of coercion (money, force,or both...not for nothing do we say "buying power"). This is what the Swedes have finally understood and I applaud their decision. I hope it becomes a norm all over the developed world.