Salon needs user selectable filters on comments... There will be no good dicussion as long as we have to read through the crazies. I want to read them once. Then check block forever if they are nuts. Or at least for the duration of the thread.

Having just gone through this process as a father that did all the right things I would say that the angst here is very real and that only having these crazy people expressing it is bad. There is still a very real imbalance between mothers rights and faters rights. Even when the mother's behavior is totally unapropriate there is still a huge amount of leverage and uncertanty for a father to go to trial. I could afford the lawyers fees but many men can't and I am pretty sure I would have lost my daughter completely by her mothers actions with not acusations of abuse of any kind. I think the tone of this article is part of the issue. Clearly abuse can be real. But I have known completly non-abusive fathers that have been falsely acused with only finacial motivations behind the acuser. There is truth that many groups and women are tone deaf inrelation to fathers rights. The truth is that is it generally excepted by our culture that fathers will be providers and not care givers in divided families. All the structures lead to there still.

Abuse is the outlier. It needs to be handled seriously be all invovled. False acusations need to be prevented. Abuse needs to be prevented. These should be the goal of all parties.

These are extremely difficult things to talk about without seeming like you are on the fringe. While my daugther had been kid napped away from me I remember looking online for support groups. The truth is most are so nutty they aren't useful. I chose not to go there but I could see someone having not other options end up right there with the them.

These groups don't have to be anti women but in truth in this area women's rights are far more secure then men's.

You seem to have become the key media critic. Maybe things can change?

Buying any car that gets less then 30MPG is just a bad idea.

When oil prices come back or the money continues to run out you will regret that vehicle.

Unless you have clear commercial needs it is just wrong regardless of the up front cost.

But there really are no good cars. They just don't design them to hit a real fuel number but still be useful. They are all designed to pass people at 80 going up hill into the wind.

We need people movers. Heck you could have gotten a sprinter van with 3 rows of seats for a little more and had way better gas millage. But maybe those aren't legal in cali....

When you say you are wrong you don't start by explaining it.

You say I said this and the truth was this.

This is the worst yet from JW.

Would have been better to just let it go.

I mean I support the pres but CM has a job. I though Joe S was gonna drop over dead after some of the stuff he said on morning Joe a few weeks back...

put it on repeat....

I mean it makes it look like there is something to hide. The whole thing invites more curiosity... I wonder if there is some plastic surgery or something else that doesn't fit the story....

yikes....

better they waste their time here trying to convince us then some middle ground web site.... These people are insane you are just encouraging them...

Paul Krugman Secretary of the Treasury of the USA?

There is a clear argument having conservative forces and liberal forces and rational conversations between them.

We have not seen this argument for a long time. What we have is a power struggle between two organizations that are whiling to do pretty much anything for more power.

What we need is to create a different group that is about rational conversations. A rational Democrat can not work with a Palin or a Bush or a Rove. A rational Republican can not work with some of the crazier Democrates. They seem harder to identify but I believe they are there.

But as long was what we are dealing with the coalition from the other planet the will always try to paint us D's into this other coalition.

The D's are guilty of crossing this line as well. I would be shocked if any politicians real positions are close to anything that comes out of their mouths.

This is what we need to correct. This is where we should spend our time working. It doesn't matter which side wins if we let them determine the game.

That is why we need honesty. Honesty and compromise. But instead we have liberals playing to the center. And conservatives playing to the Christian right. Do you think any of these big money conservatives really believe in god? The people are money driven power brokers and their ain't not god in that equation.

This is great. Why can't we have some damn honesty on TV too?

That he was an athlete and kited and wind surfed!

Obama's not as cool but hitting a string of 3 pointers and body surfin at sandy's is pretty cool.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/34371/original.jpg

Only in the US would this be bad...

Neither supports John McCain but he needs both.

Might have more staff then the state of Alaska.

Should have picked Linda Lingle from HI. Would have probably put HI in play and has quite a bit more executive experience. And isn't as loony as this one...