Jeez - I get pretty sick & tired of the "Hate is Bad, 'Mmmkay?" hippiedom I read here all the time.

I'm a progressive realist - yeah, we do exist - and I have not blinded myself to the damage done by Coulter. If tens of millions of people did not slavishly buy her every book, then maybe I'd be inclined to agree with Silenced's views on her.

But the reality is that Coulter is dangerous. She tickles that itch of hatred - against homosexuals, blacks & other minorities, those who oppose illegal wars and civil libertarians - that festers on so many conservatives.

And for that? The only response from me is to fuckin' HATE her.

Yeah, hate. It's not a four-letter word. Hate can give energy, and be a source for positive inspiration and change.

But above all, sometimes hate is absolutely necessary. The "Love is All we Need" canard sets us liberals back 40 years...

Social change isn't brought about by sitting in a drum circle singing Kumbaya, smokin' reefer, listening to Phish albums and loving every asshole and psychopath out there unconditionally.

It is brought at by getting pissed, hating those who are the source of bigotry and injustice, and channeling that hate into action.

Just my 2 cents.

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P.S. - To "Chicken Rangoon/Electro-Robot/Elephantman": you DO realise that changing your name every 2 weeks is not gonna hide your Republican trollitude from us?

Give us liberals some credit for having a brain. Your attempt to constantly start fresh with GOP trolling on Salon boards reminds me of your hero - and our great MN embarassment - Michele Bachman literally hiding behind the bushes during a gay rally at the St. Paul Capitol.

How pathetic. How funny.

Sorry, folks...ya gotta feed the troll every now & then. What they need is Love, not Hate. =)

...Hrdy says we evolved as a cooperative species not to fight off common enemies, as the current theory goes, but to take care of kids...

Why cannot intra-tribe cooperation have evolved to do BOTH?

Human nature dictates that conflict will always arise - the easy primeval example begin over distribution of resources. (Think the classic "I drink your milkshake!" line from the movie 'There Will Be Blood'.)

Conflict escalates into...? That's right: war.

And how is war best fought? With a cooperative effort.

How are kids best protected from war? With a cooperative effort.

Seems logical, no?

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So why is Ms. Hrdy (sp?) requiring these two theories of socio-biological evolution to be competing rather than complementary?

Pacifism makes for good idealism - but rather poor honest evolutionary anthropology.

but I saw "Broken Flowers" soon after "Lost in Translation" - and it felt like a complete letdown to me.

Just my two cents. Bill Murray deserves better roles.

Humans are animals too.

Stephanie makes a valid point: some animals eat other animals.

So you're telling me you cry when a human eats a cow, but NOT when a lion eats a wildebeest?

What's the difference? And why aren't PETA activists not working on getting lions to eat tofurkey and wheatgrass instead??

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Jeebus - y'all are more thin-skinned than the succulent grilled shrimp I enjoyed last night.

I'm off to lunch - where I shall get my Simba on on a bacon cheeseburger...

Signed,

Charter Member of the other PETA

(People for the Eating of Tasty Animals)

For all the granolas advancing the naturalism of veggieness & veganism:

When I taste tofurkey, bean curds & vegan cookies, I want to throw up.

When I sink my teeth into a homemade cheeseburger with thick grilled bacon slices, I am in heaven.

Yeah, there are a lot of shitty meat sources out there - see every fast food joint in existence - but when meat is done right, like BBQ free-range chicken or slow-cooked lamb roast, no...and I mean NO...fuckin' meat substitute compares to it.

Aren't my taste buds "natural"?

And if those taste buds steer me in the direction of real butter on rye slices instead of patchouli on gluten-free bread lumps, or a root beer malt instead of liquified wheatgrass - GRASS, people! - then why should I make "unnatural" choices?

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It's not my fault that God made animals tasty and plants taste like, well...grass.

As for the "if you had to hunt it you would turn vegan" argument: utter bullshit.

I have bow-hunted deer. And venison done right is delicious.

Hell, if vegans made for good steaks, burgers & stew, I'd eat y'all too. =)

Now off to marinade some pork cutlets....

Lonewolfy,

Charter member of PETA - People for the Eating of Tasty Animals

Greed is innate in us all...

Which makes it totally okay when a Republican CEO making $50 million a year runs his company into the ground - and then lays off workers scraping by on $10 bucks an hour to protect his $100 M of stock options.

Yup - in the conservative world, greed is always justified...

And anyone who dare critize golden parachutes and ridiculous degrees of income inequality?

Why, they're trying to create class warfare! And, ummm, they must be socialists! Yeah, socialists!

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The ironic thing is the USA has completely proofed itself from true class warfare.

The conservative rich - those who constantly bitch about paying taxes on their "hard-earned" (i.e. sitting in a uber-comfortable ergonomic chair in front of a PC in a temperature controlled luxurious corner office all day long) money - will NEVER suffer their deserved fate at the hands of the "lazy, stupid" poor (i.e. those who do back-breaking, soul-crushing labor just to increase the worth of the CEO's stock).

And that is the saddest truth of all.