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All this talk about how innocuous excessive CO2 is and no talk about the vast tonnages of CO (carbon MONOxide) that's poisoning the air. And animals. Are you going to tell me that acid rain is a myth too? What about the other elements/chemicals that are released in the air? Have you ever had a fish that dies from a tiny difference in pH? Have you not seen a worldwide change in animal behavior? No five legged frogs or one eyed fish? No? No increase in cancers in animals? Really? Lake Michigan is an OCEAN of a lake. It's huge! You are NOT recommended to eat fish from it. This only became so from human pollution. Those big beautiful Lakers are an adventure to fight and to catch, but they are as useless as a rock when it comes to sustenance. WE did that, heru-ur. WE did. --- Titonwan
The National Geographic claims that: "When humans burn fossil fuels, sulfur dioxide (SO2) and nitrogen oxides (NOx) are released into the atmosphere. These chemical gases react with water, oxygen, and other substances to form mild solutions of sulfuric and nitric acid. Winds may spread these acidic solutions across the atmosphere and over hundreds of miles. When acid rain reaches Earth, it flows across the surface in runoff water, enters water systems, and sinks into the soil."
Are you saying that they, and the rest of science, are wrong? Are you saying, as your words indicate, that CO2 is the cause of acid rain?
Wow dude, that must be some fine hash. Care to share? :)
PS: I was under the impression, from biology, that CO2 was rather necessary for life on this planet. Don't plants use CO2? Or is this not in your new theory of life on Earth?
See carbon cycle here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_cycle
How very funny. I have watched endless off topic comments on threads for the last weeks and now you go after me responding to Mike's questions on a dead thread with no other activity. It wasn't all the big words was it?
Perhaps you could use the kill-file script from Frankly. Or, perhaps, try to get a grip.
UK astrophysicist Piers Corbyn, of the long range solar forecast group Weather Action, declared that the ClimateGate revelations have rendered man-made global warming fears “false.”
“The case is blown to smithereens and this whole theory should be destroyed and discarded and Copenhagen conference should be closed,” Corbyn said in a contentious on air television exchange with an environmental activist with Russia's WWF. The live TV debate with Corbyn appeared on Moscow's RT TV on November 25, 2009. The RT TV's segment was titled “Heating Cheating.” See Full Video of Debate here.
“The world is cooling and has been cooling for 7 years and the leading scientists, so-called 'scientists' have been trying to hide that evidence,” Corbyn said in reference to hacked emails showing top UN IPCC scientists apparently conspiring to manipulate temperature data and exclude scientific studies from peer-review that they did not agree with.
“We should end this anti-scientific nonsense now,” Corbyn said.
“The data, real data, over the last one thousand, ten thousand or million years, shows there is no relationship between carbon dioxide and world temperatures or climate extremes. Now we can see that actually the people in charge of data have been fiddling it, and they have been hiding the real decline in world temperatures in an attempt to keep their so called moral high ground,” Corbyn told host Bill Dod and Aleksey Kokorin, the Climate Program Coordinator for WWF in Russia.
The upcoming UN global warming summit in Copenhagen is a "complete waste of time,” according to Corbyn.
'A scandal'
“The Copenhagen jamboree is a scandal and it must be stopped,” he added.
“There is a gigantic bandwagon run by governments who want to control world energy supplies and hold back development in the third world. This thing they are doing now is just the same as they are doing in the banking crisis, it is creating a whole bubble of false values,” Corbyn explained.
Corbyn said the ClimateGate revelations further revealed that man-made climate fears are not scientifically valid.
“Their claims are false, I repeat, they are false, and this theory they've got is like the titanic and it will crash. I would suggest that honest green campaigners who want to preserve biodiversity should get off this [man-made global warming] bandwagon before it sinks,” Corbyn explained.
"Carbon dioxide levels are driven by temps, not the other way around. There have been big peaks in CO2 in past...carbon dioxide is actually a good thing for the world," Corbyn explained. "More CO2 makes plants and animals more efficient," he added.
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I would pile on and add to the comments of Dr. Corbyn that there has been no warming for over a decade and, as he said, there has been decline for 7 years. But, in all this time the CO2 in the atmosphere has continued to rise. This shoots in the foot the idea that increasing CO2 is a problem rather than a benefit.
They want to "hide the decline". See the link below for a very funny vid from the folks at m4gw.
http://minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/2009/11/hide-the-decline.html