You have already intensely annoyed me today with one of your links.

But this time I will visit this link because right now I'm in the mood for a snarling seethe.

-- LondonLad

Hey, they have meds for that condition. Irish Whiskey being the best remedy, or so they say.

On a more serious note; I read people from all over the place and I find that there is a lot of information to be gleaned from all. Yes, sometimes you have to throw out a lot of their "conclusions" that they make from their data and just stick with their facts.

On the other hand; a snarling seethe can be good for a body. Glenn has been in great writing form ever since his. :-)

Never forget our (or at least mine) fine leftist friends over at counterpunch.org --- Alexander Cockburn has a new essay called "Deeper Into the Tunnel". This is a very good read, and the link is at my sig.

I would mention more; but even though on-topic for this thread, we don't want to upset our host.

"... Whatever pretty justifications are invented for staying there indefinitely, it's simply impossible to imagine what net good can come of it when things like this continue to happen, as they will." --Greenwald

I agree.

When I was a much younger man, raised as a Democrat, I supported (could not vote yet) a fellow named Lyndon Baines Johnson. As history records, he escalated the war in Vietnam and created the quagmire that cost so much life and property. Oddly, it was the next President, a man of the other party, that took the fall for Vietnam. It became his in a way that is hard to describe after all these years.

Obama runs the risk of becoming that next man: Richard Nixon.

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Note: If Obama does allow himself to become the new Nixon, the Rethugs will run an "anti-war" candidate. Now that will be a mind-blower. (I may take up acid again after all these years)

Hey, I had no part in your on-line spanking today. That was the other "usual suspects". I did find it all a hoot, but you were the one crying all afternoon --- I was at work.

As to one such as you making a vow? Bwahahaha! Now that was rich.

Chaos is what it is. Normally it comes from war of one sort or another, but the chaos of a city like Fallujah after we had bombed it to pieces is not the same as anarchy.

Does no one study these matters before popping off? Jesbus.

Funniest one line on UT in a month at least. Even dad thought that funny (Horace) and the old man is said not to have all that much humor!

He may well be a "hateful ass", and he is a conservative. We libertarians don't like a lot of his ideas; especially on the economy.

However, he was factually correct in the article, and "revisionism" is the hart of getting history correct. Would you rather we had left it that Christopher Columbus was a great man rather than the murderous bastard that he was?

I suggest marshaling evidence rather than ad hominems if you disagree with him. But, even if you think him the worst asshole to live in this modern America --- would you not love to see Greenwald debate him on Salon Radio?

Would you not enjoy Glenn and Pat B. having at it on a podcast? I think it would be good for both men. What do you think?

By the way, I have known WWII was an unnecessary war for decades. The myths that it was a "good" and "necessary" war are simply propaganda.

Of course, this venue is not conducive to large debate over issues such as this --- another reason to see Glenn invite Pat B. on this 70th anniversary of the declaration of war by Briton.