Bringing up her drunk driving record? You're purposefully undermining her character with unrelated information. Shame on you, Glenn.

All these folks whose impressions of Ivins differ from Duley's? How well do the people at your church know you? Well enough to say hi after Mass and ask how you like the new car? How well do most of your neighbors know you? Would they be on the television saying "He's a nice quiet man, kept to himself.".

I agree that the source of the bentonite story needs to come out. But as for the attack on Duley's character, shame shame shame on you.

-- TerryMcT

Shame on you Terry!

A scientist gets his reputation smeared by the words of a woman whose credibility goes without question and you think that is just fine. Then when it turns out she is a drunken college girl, she needs to be protected?

Piss on that!

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13251

Justin Raimondo

... It seems to me a stretch to divorce motive not only from context, but also from important physical evidence in this case, i.e., the letters themselves. Other equally important evidence has been completely ignored. Over the years, I've presented much of this neglected-albeit-fascinating aspect of the anthrax mystery in a series of columns – here, here, here, here, here, and here – in which I related the story of what happened to another Ft. Detrick scientist, Dr. Ayaad Assaad.

Assaad, an American citizen born in Egypt, worked for USAMRIID in the early 1990s and was involved in a conflict with a group of Ft. Detrick employees who dubbed themselves the "Camel Club." As detailed in a series of eye-popping pieces by Dave Altimari and Jack Dolan of the Hartford Courant, this cabal was engaged in systematic harassment of Assaad and other Arab-American employees at the facility, including putting obscene and racist poems on his desk and presenting him with a rubber camel adorned with a sex toy. The Camel Club's harassment of Assaad had a distinctively ideological edge, one that pre-dated the "invade their countries, bomb their cities, and convert them to Christianity" meme that later became so popular with post-9/11 neocons of a Coulterish stripe ...

The "camel club" sounds like suspects to me. The past articles that Justin wrote over the years have hyper-links in the original for easy navigation to them.

All in all, this article is a wonderful recap by someone who has written about this episode many times. I recommend it. As always with Justin, the article is long and fact-filled.

As often happens, Justin Raimondo links to Glenn Greenwald for his analysis and work on the case. note, this was posted at the very end of last thread --- I missed that Glenn was on the job with a new posting at the time I posted it before.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/08/02/
2008-08-02_fbi_was_told_to_blame_anthrax_scare_on_a.html

BY JAMES GORDON MEEK

DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

Saturday, August 2nd 2008, 6:32 PM

WASHINGTON - In the immediate aftermath of the 2001 anthrax attacks, White House officials repeatedly pressed FBI Director Robert Mueller to prove it was a second-wave assault by Al Qaeda, but investigators ruled that out, the Daily News has learned.

After the Oct. 5, 2001, death from anthrax exposure of Sun photo editor Robert Stevens, Mueller was "beaten up" during President Bush's morning intelligence briefings for not producing proof the killer spores were the handiwork of terrorist mastermind Osama Bin Laden, according to a former aide.

"They really wanted to blame somebody in the Middle East," the retired senior FBI official told The News.

On October 15, 2001, President Bush said, "There may be some possible link" to Bin Laden, adding, "I wouldn't put it past him." Vice President Cheney also said Bin Laden's henchmen were trained "how to deploy and use these kinds of substances, so you start to piece it all together."

But by then the FBI already knew anthrax spilling out of letters addressed to media outlets and to a U.S. senator was a military strain of the bioweapon. "Very quickly [Fort Detrick, Md., experts] told us this was not something some guy in a cave could come up with," the ex-FBI official said. "They couldn't go from box cutters one week to weapons-grade anthrax the next."jmeek@nydailynews.com

What does it tell you when the most significant crimes in the United States over the past fifty years have gone effectively unsolved. Where perpetrators and alleged perpetrators are killed, declared mentally incompetent, or commit suicide?

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/EPI/bioter/anthraxmatchesarmyspores.html

From the UCLA department of epidemiology, who qouted a 2001 Baltimore Sun article:

By Scott Shane, Sun Staff

For nearly a decade, U.S. Army scientists at Dugway Proving Ground in Utah have made small quantities of weapons-grade anthrax that is virtually identical to the powdery spores used in the mail attacks that have killed five people, government sources say.

Until the anthrax attacks led to tighter security measures, anthrax grown at Dugway was regularly sent by Federal Express to the Army's biodefense center at Fort Detrick, in Frederick, where the bacteria were killed using gamma radiation before being returned to Dugway for experiments. ...

So, it has been known since at least 2001 that the source may be at Dugway. Odd that has never been in my local papers in all this mess. Odd indeed.

On top of all that; what the hell is the US doing shipping anthrax around the country using commercial package services? I have had computer parts shipped to me via that service. Damn.