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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 01:23 PM

Jebus! Stupid is as stupid writes

again, liberals like

Mr. Greenwald choose to apply criminal law to matters of military. You cannot apply criminal law to enemy combatants. You cannot fight a war while asking for a judge's permission. That is just silly. We tried fighting the terrorists using criminal procedures in the '90's and that wound up causing 9/11, and now we are treating this as a matter of war. Warrants are only necessary during criminal investigations not matters of war. Here is how I viewed it...

http://theeprovocateur.blogspot.com/2008/06/liberal-misconceptions-lies-and.html

-- mikevolpe

Mike, you can not really believe that bullshit. Why come here and whine that liberals want the government to follow the god damn law? It is just a fact that the new inventions of this out-law administration were not needed even as the Axis powers had the upper hand in the early 40s. Now we need shred the constitution because of a few camel jocks on the other side of the god damn planet? Damn.

Lewis Black asked if we thought that the Iranians planed on using 500 men to throw a missile at us. But he does stand-up comedy! Not policy analisis!

Twit.

Wednesday, July 9, 2008 03:36 PM

Professor Ticketed for "No to Empire" Bumper Sticker

In San Francisco no less!

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/
90764/?ses=0c8899f11866073dc50ea42f1fb98cc4

It is the small daily affronts to our freedoms that lead us down the path to slavery.

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Professor Robert Ovetz was driving through San Francisco on the morning of June 30 when he saw the lights of a police car behind him.

Ovetz pulled over.

"When the officer came up to my window, he asked the typical police requests: registration, drivers’ license, insurance card," says Ovetz. "I asked him why he was pulling me over. And he said because of the bumper sticker on my back window."

That sticker says, "No to Empire," in large bold letters, and on the bottom in very small letters, "www.thenation.com," Ovetz notes. It’s a bumper sticker from The Nation magazine.

Ovetz’s first reaction was to laugh, he says.

Then he recalls the following conversation:

"How could it be illegal for me to have a bumper sticker on my back windshield?"

"It’s obscuring your view."

"You’re just trampling on my free speech rights."

"No sir, I’m just doing my job."

At that point, the officer went back to his squad car for a few minutes.

When he returned, he gave Ovetz a ticket.

That ticket cited part of the vehicle code that prohibits driving a car if the "driver’s clear vision" is "obstructed by snow or ice" on the car windows.

"I’ve never seen snow in June in San Francisco," says Ovetz’s attorney, Ross Dreyer.

The officer’s name is Mike Mitchell (Star number 4160), according to Ovetz, who notified him that he would be publicizing this incident.

"I asked to get the spelling of his name and told him I’ll be doing a press release on this," Ovetz said. "And I asked him, "What if the sticker had said, Yes to Empire, would you have still ticketed me?’ "

According to Ovetz, Officer Mitchell responded: "I don’t care if you’re a Star Wars fan, or not."

Ovetz responded: "You know, clearly you’re just harassing me because of what it says."

The officer remained polite, Ovetz says, and told him that if he removed the sticker, he could go to court and the ticket would be dismissed, possibly with a small fine.

"And I said, ‘I’m not removing the sticker.’ That was pretty much it."

Ovetz believes he was a victim of "selective enforcement because of his political message and the policeman’s own bias."

A lot of other cars have "a spare tire, or another sticker, or a bicycle car rack" that could be cited for obstructing the view, he says.

"We’re filing a petition to the court to have the charges dropped," he says. Ovetz, a professor of political science and sociology at the College of Marin and Cañada College, bemoans the state of our civil liberties. "We can’t even speak about the implication of empire in our country," he says. In his press release, he added: "It is disturbing that in one of the most liberal cities in America, citizens cannot freely express their opinions without fear of government harassment and intimidation."

Sergeant Wilfred Williams is a public information officer at the San Francisco Police Department.

"He can protest the ticket," says Sergeant Williams, who offers "no comment in regards to the officer doing his job."

Thursday, July 10, 2008 05:51 AM

"Face it, it's a dangerous world now that you can't wish away. ...

... If we don't make some sacrifices to protect ourselves, and again someone listening in on the average person's inocuous phone conversation is not a sacrifice, then we will truly suffer harm to life, limb and property. Oh wait! It's so much more fun to smugly rant and rave about the GOP..." -- usanumber1

Yet another coward who thinks killing men, women and children because they do not kneel and genuflect (to the "great usa is number one") is the only way to survive the cool, cruel, mean world.

Have you ever though that perhaps you should run over and kill all your neighbors since they just might harm you some day in the far future? Get them now, before they get you!

In all seriousness, you are a slave and deserve to be one. Awaken you fool, we can live as free men or die the long, long death of the cowardly slave. You seem to have made the coward's choice.

Thursday, July 10, 2008 07:59 AM

"If they stopped prostituting Christ's name, ...

... and practiced his teachings, his life would have not been in vain." --Luigi Capodilupo wrote that. [GC]

Yes, the Jesus Myth Cycle is all about becoming one with the Divine and each other. I am fairly sure one does not do that by killing women and children that have never harmed you in any way. (or, even if they had)

Peace to you.

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