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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Carol Richards
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But don't you see what Obama is saying? I mean, look, if you don't like or trust Obama that's one thing and there would be no purpose to a conversation about this. But to me, as an Obama supporter, his reaction makes sense and isn't a contradiction. Notice that I am not saying it was a good thing that he went to that church or had such admiration for Wright. I think it is fair to look at those things as examples of Obama-Flaws. And I won't argue with those who have lists of Hillary-Flaws. Fine. Personally, I don't buy into the notion that there is a metric that proves Obama-Flaws are worse than Hillary-Flaws.
But, believe me, there are many people who are supporters of Obama who aren't happy with how he associated with Wright. At the same time we don't elevate that association beyond the point of reason. I think Hillary's Bosnia statements are ridiculous and can't be rationalized away to memory issues. That said, I also can't blow it out of proportion as proof that she is the worst kind of fake alive. There are Hillary-Flaws.
Let's assume Barack did have a family type love for Wright; we all love people who are idiots in many ways. And somtimes our non-blood friends do become this type of family member. Most people I know can find examples of these people in their lives. The person who don't agree with about oh-so-much but yet you deeply respect for other things. I actually appreciate Barack's suggestion that we, as a nation, relate to each other in this sort of way. It's pie in the sky, but it also really does happen and needs to happen more. People might make fun of me for talking to you as if you are not going to just come back and laugh me off or easily show how naive I am for not seeing through Barack's mask of deception. But that is the risk you take if you are trying to participate in a new type of discourse (sarcasm included, i hope, gulp).
When this first came out, he denounced Wright's comments but wanted to highlight that he was doing so in the context of somebody he loved and cared about. He had not yet sat down and really taken the time to understand where Wright stood (mistake). But now he sees that Wright is saying more that just his own comments. Wright is telling America what Barack is thinking and he is calling Barack a lier. Isn't it ok to just see that humanly flawed Barack is now responding to a new situation? Do we have to see this as utterly-flawed Barack now hiding from his awful lie-based mistake in associating with Wright. I don't know you, so there is a chance that the issue is black and white for you and, like I said, that's that.
But, to me, it is very possible to see Barack and Hillary as flawed people who aren't quite as simple as everybody else wants them to be.
You can look back at her responses to me; Joan has always been aware that my saracasm is directed at her coverage. She thinks I crossed a certain line in the particular post you quote and I do agree with her. I don't think my point was wrong. In fact, I think this comment section and what I'm seeing on the news today makes the point as well. But it was the timing that I took issue with and assumed that's what she was commenting on.
We are similiar and i think you should like me! Start now. Please. I've been more focused ever since you pointed out that you have trouble following my point. And I can be even more focuseder if I try harder...
As far as I am concerned, you and I are friends now.
'nuff said.
I'm not saying you have to think I'm funny or that I don't whine too much. I think you and I each have a tendency to be, at times, overly serious and somewhat repetitive (which can strike people as whining). But that should not get in the way of our new friendship, right?
That's why I think you and I can make it, AKA SMITH. You are well aware of my weaknesses but you don't demonize me for them. You just skip me. In these here hills that is more than just a considerate gesture, I would think.
I'm not a big fan of your style either, but it's not like I use you as an example of what's wrong with the world (that's how many people treat each other here).
Plus, we'd be such unlikely cyber friends. People going through our comments would be scratching their heads and wondering why we connect. Hopefully, we can delete these particular comments wherein we've decided to be friends. There might even be a movie in this.
Please don't take this as my attempt to prove that Obama is anything other than basically human, but I don't find it odd that Obama was surprised that Wright decided to start going on national T.V. and call him a liar.
Look, I'm not saying it wasn't a mistake for Obama to go to the church. I'm ok with all the kinds of mistakes he and Hillary will make, so far. But unless we are imagining the worst version possible of Barack, I can really see why he didn't expect Wright to start calling him a liar. And so anger and disappointment don't shock me in this context.
But again; believe me, I know that if somebody is already "knowing" that Barack is a truly awful man then, of course, his comments just go to prove how bad he is. I guess I'm only addressing these comments to those who still give Barack and Hillary a bit of credit.
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