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Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:27 AM

I would be VERY unhappy if such a shirt was okayed by management ...

and god knows I have worked with enough skimpily dressed young women to know why I would consider it an intrusion into MY work environment.

However, if management says it's okay ... I'd just ignore it (and give both management and the sweet-young-thing a mental demerit and hope they both get "happy" sooner rather than later).

Working with people who use the work environment to scout for "prospects" or do "talk therapy" is an immense drain on productivity and, imho, a real burden on co-workers ... assuming there is, in fact, real work to get done ... which isn't a given, but unless you're working at Hooters or a pizza joint or equivalent -- I'd agree the shirt is out of line ...

Doubtful you want to pursue it, but creation of a sexualized workplace is or was considered a form of sexual harassment ... even if it's not actually directed at you.

I love how we "have" all of these "protections" and "freedoms" -- and we all know that we will punished FOREVER if we use them.

Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:22 PM

I would add: Next time DO NOT talk to employee directly ... go directly to management ...

it's hard for many people to resist "giving advice" or "mentoring" or whatever ... but commenting about someone's attire is considered (or may be considered) not only PERSONAL but EXCESSIVELY PERSONAL and, yes, you can find yourself at the end of the discipilinary receiving line.

I used to work with a young woman who dressed so skimpily that she had a portable heater (against hospital policy) as well as turned up the shared office thermostat year round ...

She was very popular and spent most of each day on the phone with boyfriend, ex-husband, children or chatting with all her work friends ... all male ...

Yes, it was my introduction on how "fun" the "new" workplace is ... word of my problem with the thermostat resulted in my being branded the "meanie" .. I was also picking up all the work she wasn't doing, I was too professional to mention to anyone but our supervisor ... should have been a good to great job -- it sucked.

Thursday, June 14, 2007 01:00 PM

forget about the t-shirt for a moment, I think LW's suspicion that this young woman is attention-seeking is likely correct ...

the T-shirt begs for comment ... and sympathy ... from any and all ... though I am suspicious that her male coworkers may be more solicitous and responsive to the "message" than her female cohorts.

LW raised his concerns with her immediate supervisor. Whether he shared the basis of his concerns (she's recently separated and is going through "change") I don't recall ... but even if EVERYONE knows about her marriage falling apart, it does not follow that anyone is concerned about her well-being or the possibility of her "acting out" ...

are you your brother's keeper?

The last few in-house jobs I've had, I have found that supervisors were absolutely unwilling to do ANYTHING that might make them unpopular or lead to their supervisor becoming involved. Extraordinary cowardice, imho ... which allowed the ruthless people who blatantly violated rules and policy to do and made the rule-followers feel like wimps and fools or old-farts.

Hopefully, her supervisor will keep an eye out for her ... or is that too old-fashioned for me to hope for?

Thursday, June 14, 2007 04:08 PM
Original article: I Like to Watch

I hate to say it but I think Chase thought the ending was "obvious" ... take that as you will.

and I think he's surprised by the degree of commotion, and I suspect he's surprised by all the superhuman talent, wisdom and genius that's been piled on his head.

This last season has been unrelenting in showing just how self-absorbed and ruthless person Tony Soprano is -- just what kind of father, husband, brother, boss and "friend" (oh, and throw "therapy patient" in there too).

This last episode showed both Meadow and AJ about to be utterly entrenched in the mob life. That law firm Meadow hopes to work for is representing mob clients ... of course they want her. AJ's gonna learn all about "the business" before taking over at the BadaBing or some newer "classier" mob club. And Carmella's "happy" about it all .... with the indictments hanging over their heads ... (As I've written, I think the "finale" laid the "tying up loose end" on a bit thick, but as "anonymous" masterfully wrote up a few pages, the future looked bleak, the center had not held, there was no exit.

One of my problems with the last season has been the almost nihilistic tone and the bleakness which, imho, are NOT Tony's -- Tony is depressed, unhappy, disgruntled ... but not suicidal or nihilistic ... Chase's overview at times has seemed to verge on both.

finally, I have often thought of that line from "The Amazing Mr. Ripley" about how Ripley would "rather be a fake somebody than a real nobody" and how that applies to all of the Soprano clan ... The association with the mob makes them important in ways that straight life is unlikely match or exceed. I wish Chase had explored that and the essential existential buoyancy of characters like Paulie, Bobby and even Jun

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