On the defining issues of genocide, outright human rights violations of torture and illegal imprisonment, it will be centrists who can remand BushCheney hostages to The Hague for Resolution of moral and ethical issues. The BushCheney Administration - and Congress - have introduced too much prejudice and have disqualified themselves from adjudicating the cases of hostages held. This may provide the very best foundation for the ultimate condemnation of the BushCheney regime. Progressives who have called for impeachment since 2005 cannot do this.

On health care for all, centrist Democrats will be able to out the Republican Party as The Party Working Against the People - Progressives have been shouting this for decades, to no avail!

And on privatization - the direct transfer of public tax revenues to corporate coffers, or neofascism - again, Progressives have been warning about this since Eisenhower!

Sometimes I think that Obama's 'truth commission' should begin by cutting their tongues out and surgically removing their keyboard fingers, and this would be just to even up the sides!

Assholes who read NYT for fact and truth are in for more wicked spin between now and the 2010 midterm elections. First, they will build up expectations, maybe for a full year - then they will lecture us about trumped up 'administration failures' with earnest but pure and unadulterated bullshit. I am so f**kin' tired of being lectured to by a literate bunch of certifiable establishment and right wing pundits with all the right pedigrees.

Thank you for your fine demystifying work, Glenn. Me, I'm out here waiting in the backyard with a torch and a pitchfork any time you want to join me. You'll recognize me by my stylish tinfoil hat with the hatband: The Anti-O'Reilly Factor.

Once more, we see The Mighty Wurlitzer droning on with the conventional wisdom of influence peddlers who benefit from the direct receipt of kickback for their tireless efforts. "Journalistic integrity?" hahahaha!

For brutal objectivity, I assiduously ignore 90% of what is broadcast and written in the traditional media, and I pay attention to flawlessly credentialed critics and academics who have no axe to grind but fact and truth. But, then, my parents let me teethe on Ramparts Magazine.

Next up for spin: The weather report. Why would NBC have purchased The Weather Channel?

Objective: C.I.A. would be against subpoenas for testimony/criminal evidence. Brennan knows too much. (Means always justify ends.) I would argue that C.I.A. never wanted Brennan out front. Obama's proposal was dangerous, because Brennan's still too useful on background. And C.I.A. wants charges of current concern to flow from Gonzalez, Tenet, Addington, Cheney and their shredders.

If we are to beware the "logical fallacy of believing that temporal succession implies a causal relation," then, in this case, you are absolutely right, sir. And the only thing that C.I.A. misjudged was the resistance from the left, so it was amplified by the pundits you so rightly excoriate.

If C.I.A. ever appear to be defeated, it is only because C.I.A. wanted to appear to be defeated. Their influence is seen in their results, which are always their highest value, particularly in smallish information/disinformation chess games like this one. It is good to remember that outflow in the apparent results is exactly what was intended for public consumption. And you are never underrated.