In addition to the people that Glenn mentioned there are also rank and file conservatives who are for accountability on torture yet the media continues to ignore their voices just so they can pretend this is a left vs. right issue. I wrote a blog piece about it here.

http://democracity.blogspot.com/2009/04/best-kept-secret-in-washington.html

I just watched Patrick Buchanan and Steve McMahon (Democratic Political consultant) "discussing" torture on MSNBC. This is what passes for "discussion" about torture. You get two political people, one a Democrat and the other a Republican and then you pretend that torture is a left vs. right issue. Sometimes they will have the moderator in this left vs. right "discussion" act as the "centrist." Of course the centrist

always argues against prosecutions. It's an extremely deceitful ploy and I'm really sick of it. I wrote a blog post about it

here.

http://democracity.blogspot.com/2009/04/hiding-truth-from-public.html

Obama was just on TV. He said the photos his administration will not release are not as bad as the ones that were previously released. He then says that if we release these new photos we will endanger the troops? And get this...he also says the photos only depict "a few individuals"...I wonder if this new Obama phrase - "a few individuals" is designed to replace the more colorful Bush phrase - "a few bad apples"?

JustinMeister, have you seen this:

No, we don't support torture,

by Darius Rejali and Paul Gronke

Saturday May 09, 2009, 2:09 PM

Dozens of polls show most Americans balk at "enhanced interrogation"

Would you support torture if you knew it saved American lives and prevented acts of terrorism? Would you support torture if you were serving in combat duty in Iraq, and you knew it would save the lives of your fellow soldiers? If you answered "yes" to either of these questions, you might be surprised to learn that you are in a minority and have been for the past eight years.

We have assembled the first comprehensive archive of public opinion on the use of torture taken since Sept. 11, 2001. Despite unending orange alerts, two wars and the specter of leading political figures arguing for the efficacy of "enhanced interrogation," a majority of Americans continue to reject government use of torture, even when confronted with the "ticking time bomb" scenario.

In 30 polls taken since the 9/11 attacks, the average public approval for American use of torture is 44 percent, ranging as low as 15 percent and as high as 49 percent, depending on the vagaries of the question. When asked most directly if they think it is "acceptable to torture people suspected of terrorism," only 35 percent of Americans express approval.

http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2009/05/no_we_dont_support_torture.html

I was so furious about this yesterday that I had to get off the computer last night. The part in Obama's statement that really drove me up the wall was this:

"My belief is the publication of these photos would not add any additional benefits to our understanding of what was carried out in the past by a small number of individuals,/b>," Obama said in a brief appearance.

Obama's less flashy version of the "a few bad apples" defense.

On a lighter note did everyone see the video of Rumsfeld being called a war criminal at the Washington Correspondent's dinner?

http://democracity.blogspot.com/2009/05/don-rumsfeld-greeted-as-war-criminal-at.html

Corrected post:

I was so furious about this yesterday that I had to get off the computer last night. The part in Obama's statement that really drove me up the wall was this:

"My belief is the publication of these photos would not add any additional benefits to our understanding of what was carried out in the past by a small number of individuals," Obama said in a brief appearance.

Obama's less flashy version of the "a few bad apples" defense.

On a lighter note did everyone see the video of Rumsfeld being called a war criminal at the Washington Correspondent's dinner?

http://democracity.blogspot.com/2009/05/don-rumsfeld-greeted-as-war-criminal-at.html

I agree that it's very discouraging to see so many Obama supporters who are now looking like mindless Bush supporters. These people are even going after Johnathan Turley, who they supported while Bush was president, but because he is now critical of Obama for doing the same things Bush did, they are attacking him.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8408335

We evidently have a nation full of toadies who are more than willing to sacrifice principle for what they mistakenly believe will be political gain. It's downright depressing. How did we end up with such pathetic people?

On a more positive note, Ron Paul was on Morning Joe this morning supporting investigations into torture. Joe Scarborough of course changed the subject once Paul started talking about torture being illegal.

http://democracity.blogspot.com/2009/05/david-gregory-advocates-no.html

Unfortunately the evidence suggests we do have people who view these programs only through a political lens. Obama has political advisers surrounding him who advise him to do things based on short term political gain (bi-partisan support) and instead of having a large group of citizens pushing him in the right direction to provide long term gain for the country we sadly have too many who are joining with the political advisers. These people are placing their party over country just like Bush supporters did. They want to win so badly that they rationalize whatever he's doing is right. It's very depressing. I think these people are the product of our establishment media who elevate political gamesmanship above everything else.