Insofar as one considers mass death 'moral'.

So, are you willing to hear the idea this is all derivative of "global warming"?

That's rather a common sense given at this point.

You know, the liberal pessimist meme that insists we are in dire peril and need to pour untold amounts of grain into making ethanol, thus putting pressure on other commodities to take up the slack of feeding people?

Its actually been liberals who have been pointing out the rush to biofuels is reducing available stocks.

On the other hand, one can look at the additional pressure on food supplies from the rising living standards for billions in India and China. You know, life for them is getting better? Or is that too cheery for you?

And your point is...what? We should keep the majority of the world poor so our food prices can stay down? We should allow mass famine and plague, working only to keep it confined to the southern hemisphere?

Or are you trying to blame Walmart in some way?

Well, they are emminently blamable for pretty much everything these days.

Considering that liberal pessimists view of nearly everything in the world as bad, you need a program to keep up with the outrage du jour.

I grant your side has it easier at assigning blame for the world's ills: gays, niggers, liburals, egg-heads, and everyone who isn't you.

Sad in a way.

Speaking of which, I understand that the globe is actually cooling with a mini ice age in the offing. Here's your opportunity to come up with the tragic aspects of global cooling before it replaces global warming as the doomsday scenario. ROFL.

There's nothing "mini" about an ice age, shooter; its an infinitely more brutal environment than you can likely comprehend. And yes, there's concerns that arctic and antarctic ice melts will alter ocean currents and cause the northern hemisphere to get buried under a few super-storms.

Either way, our current path and policies are proving unsustainable. Whether we freeze or bake, the consequences will prove grave either way, and they're not something you and yours can simply laugh or pray away. You're in the same boat as the rest of us, and so won't be spared what's coming.

Pray you don't live to see it.

...what the media's response would be if this had been initiated by a Democratic President?

Would they still be as silent as they are now?

Just asking.

To the Senate, that is.

I'm increasingly with Digby that the Republicans won't win much of anything in November (not that keeping them out won't take a fair bit of work in the meanwhile).

I am however wondering how much longer before a challenge can be brought against this geriatric nutcase. Anyone know?

...that there are limits to "Wingnut Welfare" the Village inside US 395 trades in.

I mean c'mon, its pretty much CW that Rove's orchestrated the outing of a CIA NOC just to get back at her husband; the very definition of committing treason. The only reason he hasn't been convicted is thanks to an aide of the VP committing so much perjury a case couldn't be assembled against him. Plus there's all the unsavory stories about him in his days in the Young Republicans.

Who in their right mind (or left one, for that matter) would risk their legal standing hiring someone like that?

Gods willing, we'll hear nothing further of the man after this November.

For anyone who is interested in having Obama as a contender, Noonan's observations are on the money. The only way he can move forward is to embrace the American experience, and leave the truly "bitter" behind.

This would be the same Peggy Noonan who claimed that God directed a school of dolphins to rescue young Elian Gonzales out of the Gulf of Mexico, right?

As for the "bitter" element, I'd think anyone who would emigrate below the Mason-Dixon line as you have would be exposed to such feelings daily, shooter242. This is, after all, a region where lynching is still considered a favorite pasttime.

Fortunately the rest of us are a little more evolved.

But not evolved beyond stupid, archaic stereotypes, obviously.

Unless you have some poll data to show that 'lynching is considered a favorite pasttime' here.

No poll data. Merely the fact my wife (who is black and looks vaguely Latina), son (who is mixed and looks more Latino) and I (indisputably Irish-German) have been physically threatened in the past by residents of certain states of the South. Perhaps I'm unfairly extrapolating the stereotype.

How about we stick to the point and not go out of our way to offend a bunch of people who might otherwise agree with you, shall we?

Fair enough, although my comment was directed more at the Jersey ex-patriate/non-patriot; I should have been clearer.

Do the man a favor Iokkan and keeping your dribbly mouth shut.

No.

Did you learn nothing about extrapolating stereotypes from the story about Barack Obama's grandmother?

Plenty.

I'm also keenly aware that those who fall into 'stereotypes' do exist in both our country and our world. Acknowledging them makes me no more racist than yourself, merely more honest.

I believe it's critical that we keep that in mind as we discuss him for the next seven months.

So say we all.

If only you could say this entire post live and on the air on every cable news network. If nothing else it might shame some of the schmucks into doing their jobs better.