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Thursday, April 17, 2008 06:05 AM

Conceit, thy name is "shooter242"

* The left has been using Ad Hominems since early 2000. You may recall the campaign ad equating Bush to the people dragging Byrd to death behind a truck?

Given his choice of pasttimes and acquaintances, no surprise there.

* People aren't responding to Ad Hominems per se, they are responding to the ideas that the left is weak and the right is strong.

Granted, but largely due to the lack of adequate pushback from the nominal Left.

* Pretending that the left has taken the high road and must change to the low, is just delusionary. The left patented hardball tactics.

Perhaps in the past, but our concerns are with today.

* The left's real problem is their policy concepts, not their presentation.

Here we'll agree to disagree.

* Defining opponent behavior as bad, but insisting on emulation for results, is a fair argument for war or torture.

This...makes no sense, even for you. Are you arguing war and torture are acceptable? Why am I not be surprised?

Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:35 AM

Its called 'facing reality', Proximity Warning.

Ah, that hearty Democrat optimism that so resounds at election time.

First step in solving any problem is first acknowledging there is one.

We'll leave the "hearty optimism" for the 29% who think they'll be saved by the imminent 'Rapture'. The rest of us have a hell of a lot of work ahead of us.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 02:27 PM

A congent defense of the indefensible, Asher.

So the moderators really had a duty to ask him about this stuff, since his campaign keeps him at such a distance from reporters, and more importantly, since the two candidates are so close on policy that the only way to make a choice is on personality issues.

So by that construct, you are saying that ultimately issues don't matter and all voting should be done based on whether we want to have a beer with a given candidate.

Sorry, that's how we ended up with the messianic nihilist currently in the White House.

What last night proved was that ABC has fallen so far in its standards it can't be trusted. Reliance on "gotcha" questions and manufactured controversies are emotionally titillating, but really its no way to choose our next President.

Not that it matters at this point. ABC will be peppered with emails expressing dismay, but will still be on the air tomorrow. The two candidates will still be going after each other until the Convention, Senator McCain will continue to embarrass himself and his party, and George W Bush will still be President until January 2009.

The rest of us just live in this mess.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 04:56 PM

Who said you couldn't satire Bush supporters like anonymoose?

I'm speechless. Your parody is brilliant. -- DCLaw1

So say we all.

Perhaps we've all been trying too hard to skewer these characters. They've been doing it brilliantly all on their own.

The point will of course be lost on anonymoose, who's BDS appears too chronic to realize how sick in the head he is.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 05:07 PM

Is it parody, satire, or simple silliness from NotOrbitBoy?

I think that the reason that the left wing media asks such poor questions at the democratic debates, is because they know that the candidates will do poorly with good questions.

I'm puzzled. I really, honestly am.

Friday, April 18, 2008 10:53 AM

Show us the numbers, shooter242.

You may not think those aspects of one's world view are relevant, but most do.

Show us how many think that way.

Then show us how the questions were worded.

Then give us a demographic and income breakdown of the respondees.

Then explain how one's bowling score is in any way, shape or form indicative of one's "character".

Then, just to finish off, please commit seppuku with a dull wakizashi as apology for inflicting this offensive idiocy on the rest of us.

Friday, April 18, 2008 10:58 AM

Learn history and then comment on it, shooter242.

Bush was elected because Nader split the Democrat vote.

He wasn't "elected" at all in 2000. He lost the popular vote and ran out the clock on recounts in Florida.

Get to wherever you're flying to safely. Comedy like yours is hard to find in this world of tears.

Friday, April 18, 2008 12:40 PM

What's the difference between April and November, Sol Invictus?

Right now, Obama is on his way to a severe thumping at the hands of John McCain come November, and yet his supporters remain fooled by enthusiasm of a very small percentage of the overall electorate.

If the election were held today, perhaps you'd be right. But it isn't being held today, is it?

As to how "small" the "percentage" of the "overall electorate" is enthusiastic or not over Obama, the fact remains he is the presumptive Democratic nominee for the White House. That he's still engaged in a primary battle doesn't alter the fact.

In answer to my question in the subject line: seven months between today and the general election.

Seven months for him and his campaign to change those numbers. Whether that happens or not cannot be told at this moment, nor should it be inferred things will remain static between now and November.

Keep in mind the current Administration can still screw us all royally in the interim, which could either help or hinder either side's campaign. Obama himself could screw up, or be assassinated, or we could all die in a nuclear exchange.

The future is unwritten, but your caution is well taken.

Guess those of us who want a change in November still have some work to do.

Okay, a lot of work to do.

Saturday, April 19, 2008 06:00 AM

Oh no worries, Proximity Warning.

Everything will be just fine. If anything, I'll be interested to see what happens to the class of professional frothers once Bush and the Rethuglicans are of the picture for a while.

Oh, they'll always be with us. Us "professional frothers" have found our voice now and won't have much trouble finding targets aplenty to skewer, expose, and otherwise pester.

Provided Bush hasn't killed us all before November. I put nothing past that born-again nihilist.

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