If you want to stop the schoolyard bully from beating the shit out of you day in and day out, like the Republicans have been doing to Liberals for so long, you sucker punch him and then step on his face when he's down. There's nothing honorable about it, but it's incredibly effective. moreover, nothing else works, sadly. Playing by the rules or "breaking them in an honorable way" when the other side never plays by the rules is totally futile and only guarantees that the other side will continue to play dirty.

When GOP bullies stormed buildings in which Florida ballots weer being recounted and forced the discontinuation of the recount, Democrats just capitulated and murmured something about playing by the rules. The "rules" mean nothing when only one side plays by them. Unless Republicans and their enablers, such as Time are aware that not playing by the rules comes with a heavy price, Democrats will continue losing presidential elections and the GOP enablers will continue to enable.

I wasn't calling for one moment for the use of violence against GOP thuggery and fraud. It's possible to harass the Time editor without using violence and beraking the law. The nearest I'd get to violence would be by sending Democratic operatives down to Dade County back in 2000 to evict the GOP goons and allow the recount to continue. The Democrats stood by and allowed Ken Blackwell to steal the Ohio elections. They didn't organize mass demonstration before the 2000 election theft was completed. The argument I keep hearing from independents who can't stand the GOP but won't vote Democrat is that the Dems are weak and won't stand up to the GOP even when the presidency is taken away from them by fraud. Democratic opponents of an impeachment process against Bush/Cheney justify their position on the grounds that the Right would scream bloody murder about the Dems not playing by the rules.

Since the person is unarmed, I consider him armed and dangerous and he should be shot on sight.

My guess is that mommy dressed him too often in her intimate underwear.

When the SS commanders of the Nazi extermination camps realized the Allies were closing in, they started to destroy evidence of the horrendous crimes that had been committed in those camps. How far down have we fallen when the world is now comparing the Bush administration to the 3rd Reich, after years of torture, war crimes and now the destruction of incriminating evidence. It would be hard for the American public to claim the infamous German claim of "we didn't know what the Nazis were doing". A lot of this stuff was known to congresspeople, senators, journalists and others, and they didn't stop it.

"Sometimes Nazi references are appropriate."

I've never been to Iraq, but anybody who ever saw a Latin American village after a death squad trained and armed by the US military and occasionally commanded by US military officers or US mercenaries, wouldn't find Nazi comparisons far fetched at all. I happened to see such villages back in the day and spole with some of the survivors and I couldn't for the life of me see the difference between Nazi behavior and US conduct in Latin America. Nor do I see any difference between destroying torture evidence to Nazi behavior or the difference between the invasion and occupation of a country that didn't attack us and the Nazi invasion and occupation of Poland, for example.