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Friday, October 5, 2007 01:11 PM

ADL mentality

Even in the San Francisco Bay area chapter, the most progressive and least paranoid chapter of the ADL, the spirit of Israel Right Or Wrong is strongly entrenched. If you dare pose a question to a an event guest speaker that is considered not totally in line with the 'Israel right or wrong, Israel always good Arabs always bad' meme, you will get dirty looks from the organizers and hear some very harsh words from participants. It's supposed to be a non-political organization dedicated to combating hate speech and hate crimes against both Jews and gentiles, but in the last 20 years it has become a tool Likud supporters, have used to advance Likud ideology and to prevent any condemnation of Likud and its mostly right wing American supporters.

Friday, October 5, 2007 03:48 PM

David Sugerman:The sequel

Here you are again, like the extremely annoying house guest who rings you doorbell 10 minutes after being dropped off at the airport. Sugerman, as a Jew to a Jew:you are still as pleasant and as welcome as a hemorrhoid, you drecky shmock.

Friday, October 5, 2007 04:35 PM

Garry Owen, lighten up

The American people have stood by while their government used lies and forgery, just like the Nazis, to invade and devastate a sovereign country. Just like the German people of a few generations ago, the American people didn't remove their government for that criminal invasion and for the torture and other gross abuse of human rights and international laws that followed. In that sense, the American people, collectively, deserve to be named anything in the book. As long as allow the Bush/Cheney regime to survive and stay in power, we deserve to be called names, and the Republicans certainly have behaved in a Nazi like fashion. You can't argue with reality.

Friday, October 5, 2007 04:58 PM

Garry Owen,

I'm certainly including myself in the collective culpability of the American people vis-a-vis their government crimes. isn't there a law that mandates that if you see a crime being committed you must try to prevent it? I have always believe that we must topple the Bush regime through civil disobedience, creating a bloodless coup. I thought that having 5 million people march on D.C. and shut down the government would do the job, but I'm not good at organizing such things. When I travel abroad and have to answer to non-Americans about the growing similarity between the Bush/Cheney regime and the 3rd Reich, I must agree with them. Just look at the recent revelations about our own Waffen SS, aka Blackwater, conduct in Iraq.

Friday, October 5, 2007 05:19 PM

SomeNYGuy

Sugerman may a Shmuck, or possibly a schmuck. What is certain is that he is a big Putz.

Friday, October 5, 2007 06:43 PM

The absurdity of the ADL under Foxman

ADL National Director Abraham Foxman's denial of

the Armenian Genocide and opposition to Congressional legislation reaffirming that the Turkish Genocide perpetrated against the Armenian people was a crime against humanity was a clear sign of how morally bankrupt the ADL has become under Abe Foxman. The reason behind Foxman's objection was of course that Turkey is a strategic ally of Israel.

I have witnessed first hand the moral degradation of the ADL. Last year I attended a San Francisco ADL event dealing with hate crimes in the aftermath of recent attacks on synagogues by white Supremacists in the Sacramento area. After the speech, an ADL member asked the speaker, an Israeli born gentleman, about the violent and unprovoked attacks by radical orthodox Jewish settlers in against unarmed local civilians in occupied Hebron, including severe beating of women, children and old people, mockery of their religion and vandalism of shops and houses while an Israeli military unit assigned to provide the settlers 24/7 protection was looking on and allowing the settlers their little pogrom. The organizers refused to allow the speaker to answer that question,and reprimanded the member for asking it although the evening's subject had been hate crimes. Any criticism of hate crimes committed by Jews or supporters and allies of Israel is strictly forbidden.

Saturday, October 6, 2007 09:21 AM
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ADL under Abe Netanyau

The ADL in its current incarnation is an extension of the Likud party. Abe Foxman is nothing but an ambassador for Bibi Netanyahu. Once you understand that, everything about the ADL's conduct under Foxman is easy to figure out. The ADL is not going to take on Fox, the neo-conservatives or any right wing radio talking head, no matter how many e-mails Glenn fires up to the ADL.

Saturday, October 6, 2007 11:38 AM
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The Israelis are Anti-Semites

Most Israelis are more moderate than Joe Lieberman(and Abe Foxman) on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, land for peace, Israeli settlements future or settler violence against Arab civilians. Lieberman sides with the most extreme right wing elements on the Israeli political scene. Lieberman is not universally respected in Israel and is considered by most Israeli mainstream political analysts to be too extreme in his views and too much in bed with the neocons vis-a-vis the Israeli-Arab conflict and an attack on Iran. According to the weird "thought" process of some of the dunces posting here, over half of Jewish citizens of Israel are anti-Semitic.

Saturday, October 6, 2007 04:07 PM
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WinSmith

I have had the misfortune of reading some of the drivel you have posted here. More eloquent posters than me have commented on the silliness and meaningless of your drivel, but it reminded me of something my late father would say in Yiddish when faced with extreme stupidity. It translates from the Yiddish as:A fool is his own informer.

Saturday, October 6, 2007 07:16 PM
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The record of AIPAC

Back in 1993, after the Oslo accords weer agreed on, then primer Rabin and his foreign minister Peres arrived to the US in ordwer to explain and "sell" the agreement to the major Jewish organizations. They received a hostile reception from AIPAC, which aligned itself with the Israeli rght wing that was fiercely opposed to Oslo.

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