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Wednesday, January 2, 2008 09:38 PM
Original article: Viagra for women?

Often not in the head.

Just as men, women can suffer from physiological problems inhibiting their sex lives. If they are missing their ovaries then they will likely be short on Testosterone, a hormone necessary for sexual arousal in women as well.

I don't get it - this idea that sexual aids for women are bad seems to be an overall symptom of the baptismal/calvinist state of American culture OMG! TEH SX IS BAD!

Why should those women who could benefit form this forget their sex lives just to satisfy the vocal few whose political and/or religious beliefs it offends?

Wednesday, January 2, 2008 09:47 PM
Original article: Viagra for women?

@fetboy - You're verging into creepy/stalker land

I well recall your threats of physical violence against me, the accusations of pedophilia and rape. Your stated desire that I be raped.

Now you're moving onto obsessions with individual women online - this is not a good sign. Seeking help offline might be a good idea.

Wednesday, January 2, 2008 09:57 PM
Original article: Viagra for women?

Tnahks cdevlin

A thoughtful, illuminating and on topic! :) post. Issues are rarely one-sided or even deliberate.

What seems to get ignored even more is that sometimes problems are physical as well. Which is where drugs such as Viagra or the above LibiGel come into play.

Wednesday, January 2, 2008 11:21 PM
Original article: Viagra for women?

Well that explains a lot

my wife can hardly speak English, and I can't really speak her language but we still communicate very well

According to you.

So, you don't share a common language after how many years of marriage? and she's stuck in a country with a small child where she doesn't speak the language. And yet she is fully empowered and not oppressed by you at all.

Yeah right.

Friday, January 4, 2008 06:59 AM
Original article: Viagra for women?

"It's not about fault, it's about control" = $$$ => privateice

Bingo. I think you've hit the nail on the head there and its amazing how many people miss that point altogether.

And its fascinating to see people emerge from all ends of a political spectrum trying to deny others that choice. But despite all their protestations of ethics, sticking it to the man, health, or liberation. I think at heart they don't want to others to gain control of their bodies - that would seem to weaken their stated positions of ideology and lessen their own power.

Sunday, January 6, 2008 05:47 AM

Some basic science, which seems to be sadly lacking by some posters

  • Testosterone and Estrogen are present in roughly equal levels in the Brains of Men and Women. In fact Testosterone converts to Estrogen in the brain.

  • Testosterone is necessary for a healthy libido in both women and men.
  • The minuscule of Testosterone levels available via this patch will have little to no effect on womens facial hair etc.
  • This patch initially appears to be designed for women who have had Ovariectomies, which can happen to women at any age, not just older women in menopause.
  • Rupert - not sure if you were joking or not, But testosterone is not transferable via semen :)

I don't get why so many posters appear to have issues with another tool (which is all this is) being made available to women for the purposes of controlling their own lives. Its not being forced on people. I swear, if the pill was only being tested now, you lot would be against it as a tool of the establishment for the sexualisation and control of women.

fetboy has serious disabling issues with his own gender and appears unable to refer to the male sex without sneering. Such self hatred is not a recipe for long term healthy relationships - seek help.

Sunday, January 6, 2008 01:27 PM

Anecdotally

Is there a chemical means of making a woman's clitoris more sensitive? Or am I on the wrong track there? (I really don't know)Is there a chemical means of making a woman's clitoris more sensitive?

Viagra will greatly increase sexual pleasure for women - increased blood flow to the clitoris (which does get erect) etc. Susie Bright did a couple of interesting articles on the subject and I believe there is somer research on it.

Sunday, January 6, 2008 02:49 PM

Yeh yeh

We can bring up lots of situations where a hormonal supplement won't work and/or is inappropriate.

Not the point. The point is there are lots of situations where all the caring and sharing in the world won't do a damn thing but a hormone booster will.

Sunday, January 6, 2008 03:19 PM

Than why don't women with libido issues just take a testosterone injection?

For pete's sake will you get over this black or white view of the world. If you took off your ideological blinkers you would have seen I was advocating the appropriate use of meidcations and/or alternatives. Sometimes marriage counselling is the best idea, sometimes the guy needs to learn to be more sensitive, sometimes the women needs to be more sensitive, sometimes a holiday is needed, sometimes a complete change of lifestyle is needed, sometimes medical help is needed. Sometimes its *all* of the above.

I would highly recommend not fucking around with hormones or brain chemistry (unless you actually have a naturally occurring chemical or hormonal imbalance problem).

Did you actually read the article or have all your letters just been knee jerk responses? a hormonal imbalance problem is exactly what this patch is for.

Sunday, January 6, 2008 03:34 PM

Actually some women have been doing that for years, and the results aint pretty (or they are, depending upon how you look at them).

Care to expand on that? it sounds like rubbish. Taking large dosages of steroids is not equivalent to a testosterone patch.

Sunday, January 6, 2008 05:21 PM

Would a woman's low libido be considered a hormonal imbalance issue that was in need of correcting through hormone treatment?

I'd say that would be upto the woemn in question and her doctor - not anybody here.

Sunday, January 6, 2008 05:26 PM

Body builders and transexuals

I was taking about female body builders and female born transsexuals, when I mentioned some women that have been taking testosterone injections for years.

Neither Female nor Male bodybuilders take testosterone. Anabolic Steroids are the drug of choice there.

You find FTM transexuals ugly and funny? how enlightened of you.

Regardless the amounts involved are vastly greater than are involved with this patch, comparing them is just uninformed scaremongering.

Sunday, January 6, 2008 06:25 PM
Original article: This Modern World

Would'nt it be easier to list the things he's been right about?

Or would that generate a divide by zero error?

Sunday, January 6, 2008 06:32 PM

@fetboy

No where did I saw ugly or funny.

You used it as a throw away line plus "ain't pretty" = ugly in the context. Your penchant for making off the cuff unsupportable statements and then trying to deny you meant what you said or implied is well known.

Also I doubt women body builders or FTM transsexuals would appreciate you making ignorant bullshit incorrect statements about their lives in an attempt to justify denying women control over their own libido's.

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