Exactly. Plus HRC's formidable negatives. If you want to lay the blame of a possible Obama/Biden defeat somewhere, put it on the megalomaniacal Clintons.

As to:

"(the only difference between being a slave in Georgia and a factory worker in Massachusetts was that the worker had to pay for his hovel)"

One other, the former was a SLAVE.

QB, you're just so full of it. Like this:

"Women realized that the best woman did not win because she was a woman."

No, some women BELIEVE she didn't win for that reason. That's playing the sex card, and it's utter BS. Show me some evidence that "women," i.e. they all think alike, "know" this, and I'll retract this statement.

I, for one, am and was very interested in voting for a woman, I personally think having a woman President would be a bigger step forward--FORWARD--for this country than an African American man. But Hillary was not even close for me.

"Ironically, I don’t think Palin has to be pro-choice to appeal to women or to inspire them. She simply is showing this country as Hillary did, that see you can be anything you want to be."

If progressive women all think this way, and will throw away the next 10-20 crucial years of this country and world's future because of that, then they are being unimaginably stupid.

"Insult after insult upon Hillary has resulted in a backlash that ignores party lines."

I've seen little evidence of sexism beyond what women practice on men too; just because it's done within women's spheres of greater influence,like at home, doesn't make it any worse.

And, again, if a few insults make progressive women want to choose a backwards fundie like Palin, then they're idiots.

Is that a response? Quoting Dee Dee Meyers!? I get it, you're either a troll or just, well, not able to wrap your mind around anything but what you're fed. Either way, you won't hear from me again!

"Life's the hardest teacher, because she gives the test first and the lesson afterward." This is why Obama/Biden need to keep ahead of the smears and lies, and point them out and how they're part of the Rove teams' tactics. Don't let them fester.

At the same time, it's not a problem IMO to slowly build momentum for 11/4, and most of all not look worried or desparate.

Quick, real readers post some letters before the trolls show up ha!

because she or McCain's people have either read this guy, agree with him, or are using his words in the same way they use other terms like "a culture of life" etc.

So it implies strongly that she's at least not in disagreement with the guy.

that some amongst us would consider her extreme religious views irrelevant. I doubt any of them would say the same if she belonged to an equivalent sect of another religion. So it isn't mecessarily about her beliefs per se, but that those beliefs drive her approach to governing, as corroborated stories about her in Alaska bear out.

Most troubling about her, right now, is that she's not talking to the press, and that the McCain campaign is pushing the idea that the press is "unfair" to her, same old victim routine. No VP pick in history has been sequestered like this. It is BTW a perfect come-back to her supporters--why the secrecy?

"I am a Clinton supporter --the best sort, the one that sees a 2012 return."

So the best sort of Democrat is one who wants four more years of anti-democratic and anti-Democratic policies, 1-2 more right-wing SC judges, Roe v. Wade overturned, etc, etc, etc.

I hope you're a troll, then you're just lying, not either incredibly stupid and narrow-minded, completely lacking in moral compass, or both.

That the gubmint can now spy on us, while we now can't even subpoena the communications of a growing number of the crooks in power. How ironic, so ironic it makes me wish they'd all DIAF and then burn in hell, and I don't even believe in hell.

"capitalism. it's not a system, it's a euphemism."

Bon mot!

Agore, China's only nomincally non-capitalist. Check it out over there as I did for many years, you'll see.

C&R, your bombastic yet trivial and low-blow attacks on progressives and their websites are tiring. Just go back to FR or whereever it is you get your idees recues. I'm sure you'll protest "I'm not a rightie." Yes you are, whether you know it or not.

South American countries are pulling away from the imperialist system we drive which has devastated their economies and poitical systems. I say good--funny how righties love competition when they're on top, whine and name-call when they're not.

I should add "in the past" about our effects on their countries. If you're old enough to remember their debt crisis, completely IMF-manufactured, you'll get my drift.

'nuf said.

Maybe the first time she was told she was pregnant her response was "good, then I wont' have to do THAT again for a while."

Probably not though....BC use is more likely :-).