Will Salon go to try to undermine Obama and help Hillary?

Some of the comments in this thread are clearly racist.

I was raised Catholic and went to what was a 99% white church. I can't tell you how many times, when I used to go to church, what was being said would require one to suppress laughter. I remember our Priest used to RAIL against TV shows that by today’s standards would be mainstream family entertainment. We would smile at each other as if to say... pay no attention... dinosaur alert. Our priest was a nice guy, a sweet guy even. He just thought that ‘All in the Family’ was a communist plot. He would go on and on and on.

Just think about what some of the total loonies on the Right have said in religious forums. Then ask… why is the press spending so much time on this? Would it be… because Obama and his minister are black? Gee that would sort of prove the point no?

I am sad. I wanted to believe that Democrats were somehow better than the Right Wing; that we tried to hold our values and hopes above politics. But this primary has taught me that the practice of politics by some in our party has transcended our values. I now believe that the will to gain personal power is more important than achieving progressive progress by some members of our party.

This will to power is what drives some to read this speech as other than an honest attempt to address a very difficult issue that faces our nation. Apparently politics and power are more important than ideals. What Obama did that I thought was brilliant, and has not been acknowledged by the short sighted, is point a way ahead. The equation of white and black anger, and how the Right uses that anger to the detriment of white and black people, was the best part of the whole speech to me. It is the antithesis of the politics of fear; it is the politics of possibility.

There is a lot in this speech and I think it is strong enough to stand up to wilful political misinterpretation. The sad thing is Salon and Joan practice politics on a speech that is new, brave and transcendent. The angry old wrinkled white men who pawed over the transcripts of the speech on FOX looking for any kind of angle they could distort are a dyspeptic and dysfunctional company to keep. Enough with this. If not now… then soon.

Warning: do not feed the trolls. They are only here to disrupt and lower the level of the discussion. Many are not Hillary supporters even if they claim to be so. Vile disgusting creatures.

To feed or not to feed. You have far more patience than I do.

LSFIAB

I've written many posts begging Salon and Joan in particular to please display some objectivity when it comes to Obama vs Hillary. So now... since I do pay for this site... I think we should start an unofficial poll... should Joan take a vacation... Yes or No?

I am beginning to get a little angry over all of the hypocracy surronding this issue. I vote YES for Joan takes a vacation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editing

There's a Wiki-Link describing the job of editor-in-chief. Joan is not merely a blogger. She has an influence over the content of the entire magazine, so she is not just a hired hand expressing an opinion.

There are many of us here who subscribe to Salon expecting real objective reporting and even handed content choices with a liberal/progressive slant. I for one don't believe we've been getting that. If I want to read 'Hillary for President' talking points I can go to their website.

Salon...

Clinton good... Obama bad... Clinton good... Obama bad...

The way you twist and turn in the wind is sad. Go home.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/convictions/archive/2008/03/23/endorsing-obama.aspx

Salon behind the curve.

Salon today leads with the Dali Lama, a Girl who can't get laid, and some more Wright stuff. The BIG story all over the net however is Clinton's lie about her 1996 arrival in Bosnia. Yet not a word anywhere in Salon. Silence is bias. No, actually you are so past bias... you are becomeing a joke.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/24/145341/201/815/483295

Glenn once again clearly and pointedly illustrates the manipulated reality machine. There is interesting fallout from the Obama speech on race and the whole Wright controversy in this regard. I have read many posts and heard much analysis about how the right wing will use this against Obama. There has been much wringing of hands by faux Clinton concern posters, and rubbing of hands in glee by far right Republicans just out from under their sheets. However there is one thing I haven’t heard mentioned very much; The several instances of very heated debate on this issue in places where you wouldn’t expect it, like Fox, where commentators have gone off script, and shown real emotion when discussing this issue. This has been unexpected to a certain extent and caused some interesting mold breaking moments. Perhaps the call to discussion by Obama will have some interesting unintended consequences not quite foreseen. This makes Clinton’s mention yesterday of Wright seem so off-putting and tone/moment deaf/oblivious. Obama has shown a way to break the frame. Can it be that there will be a true paradigm shift, not just in American, but world politics, or at least a new way to break the faux reality machine?