Ok... I think you are not a Clinton supporter and are just here to stir up trouble, but I'll bite.

Leaving aside the fact that it is the Rules Committee, and not Obama, who came up with the formula, what exactly would you consider fair? Obama gets zero delegates from Michigan? The voters were told the election would not count. Many Michigan democrats, thinking that their primary was basically canceled, voted Republican to screwer the results. Hundreds of thousands of voters stayed home in Florida. Remember these primaries were very early. When Obama would campaign in a state, which he could not do in Florida, Clinton's lead was often shrunk, or even surpassed. She had all the name recognition early on, so it hurt Obama much more not to be able to campaign there. I could go on and on but you get the drift. These elections, as I said before, are severely tainted. Not accurate representations of what the will of the people would have been had they been run openly, fairly, and free.

One point I will concede, that had the Committee decided to seat the way Clinton wanted, it would not have made a difference anyway. This is why the anger of her supporters looks irrational. It would have rewarded states who disobeyed the party. Even the Republicans punished Florida.

Obama is going to win big over McCain. Grin and bear it friend.

Any kind of compromise on Michigan and Florida would have disappointed one side or the other. They should have followed the rules they set up from the beginning, or had a re-vote. These elections are tainted. The committee had to read some tea leaves to try to do justice, and I think came as close as they could, but a re-vote would have been better.

I am concerned about the damage the Clinton campaign has done to the Obama candidacy. Some of the Clinton supporters seem almost irrational (please don't call me misogynist, some of the comments have made me recoil from the TV set) in their anger and disappointment, and are directing their vitriol directly at Obama. This is very unfortunate. I have read many comments on how Obama needs to bring some democratic women back into the fold. Even more so, Clinton needs to undo the unfortunate damage she has wrought.

"don't be surprised when ALL THE TRUTH really comes out about him"

OK Kimbah-ya I'll bite. Tell us now... tell us ALL THE TRUTH... we're waiting... waiting... still waiting... really...

Saw the thing last night. Now I don't want to give anything away here... the movie for me lost it's way in the last 15 minutes or so. It was a rather nice ride up until that point... and some of the self referenced jokes... Like John Hurt doing Lear's fool... were quite fun... but the audience was clearly disappointed in the ending... and ILM really fell down in some of the final special effects... one that looked like something out of an old TV episode of the original Battlestar Galactica. Maybe some of the loose ends wouldn't have mattered as much if the team had really wowed us at the end... but they just didn't.

Some major plot points simply didn't tie together... or make any sense at all... for a primer in how to make form and motivation seem really organic and still be referencing lots of other things see 'In Bruges'. For a lesson in how to let actors loose and have fun in a summer blockbuster see 'Iron Man'. Sadly... George and Steve did neither.

This election is not going to be close... Obama is going to win big. There will be much shaking of heads and wringing of hands. The Democrats are going to trounce the Republicans. Big time. Hard and merciless. You have not a prayer in heaven or hell. Get ready to loose bad... real bad. Here's to the guillotine for the misspeaking talking heads!

Too bad the trolls are getting shriller... it used to be fun when it was somewhat tough to suss em' out... now it's fish in a barrel time since the game has been called... and they know they have a terrible hand.

It does drag down the whole level of discussion. That's too bad. There's a lot of smart people posting and I generally enjoy reading... I guess I should revel in the smell of fear and desperation wafting up off of the Troll-posts.

Where's the good analysis article on Trolls in Salon? This would be a fun topic no? How some are paid operatives... the Rush effect... how to spot a troll... Hutman a few pages back was a fun read... I'd like to get some Trolls on the record! They could be Anonymous! "MY life as a blog-troll"... I'd read it!

Then you get the real poster pretending to be a troll and exaggerating his trolliness to make fun of him. It's like Windows itself... frames within frames... on and on... How about a REAL Troll... going over the top... to pose as a real poster making fun of a Troll? And then there could be...

without a magic ring... is indeed a rather sad thing.

It's time to sing the Return of the King. All of the stomping, and sad resorts to misinformation will not stop the parade... onward soldiers... watch them squirm and cry... as we blithely march on by.

First by Bill... now by the Democratic party.

If hell hath no fury like a woman scorned... how about a woman scorned twice? Can this explain the depths of disdain served up hot and steaming by empathetic scornees?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/30/205510/629/795/506698

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/north_carolina_ag_opens_invest.php

http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/04/facing-south-exclusive-dc-nonprofit.asp

Clinton operatives involved in vote suppression scandal. This one is going to be big. Felonies galore...