Bravo... Rose Mary Woods...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Mary_Woods

Tapes my ass... VCR? I doubt it... somewhere somehow they are still there... Salon mentions this as CIA was trying to get out in front of the NYT story. CNN is broadcasting TAPES now... let's all get on this... it CAN'T BE TAPES.

"recognize the Christian faith as one of the great brain washing methods of the world"; proclaim that Christmas is "a holiday of great pressure to go shopping and pay high prices to Americans"; decree that "Christians and Christianity have contributed greatly to the decay of western civilization"; explain that "on December 25 of each calendar year, American Christians observe Christmas, the holiday celebrating the birthday of Mithras, the Iranian "Sun of Righteousness"”; and "express our deepest respect to American Christians, but not so much to Catholics and their new gay Nazi Pope."

You say...

"Bush talked non-interventionism in 2000. Welcome to the real world - it's more complicated than you can imagine."

ouff... like the real world changed his mind... nope... from:

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/4/3233

"From the very beginning, there was a conviction, that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go, says O'Neill, who adds that going after Saddam was topic "A" 10 days after the inauguration - eight months before Sept. 11.

"From the very first instance, it was about Iraq. It was about what we can do to change this regime," says Suskind. "Day one, these things were laid and sealed."

As treasury secretary, O'Neill was a permanent member of the National Security Council. He says in the book he was surprised at the meeting that questions such as "Why Saddam?" and "Why now?" were never asked.

"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying �Go find me a way to do this," says O'Neill. "For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is a really huge leap."

And that came up at this first meeting, says O'Neill, who adds that the discussion of Iraq continued at the next National Security Council meeting two days later."

Non-interventionism my ass...

"So you think Bush in 2000 was being cynical - making pretty speeches for posterity or to woo voters?"

Let's just say it straight... I think he's a liar.

"Perhaps, but then perhaps so were Thomas Jefferson and James Madison et al."

Jefferson... Madison... Bush...; BUSH???? You are kidding...

"Having established that both parties spoke of one course of action and pursued another, the assignment of motive is really kind of besides the point; you are either true to your stated principles or you aren't."

Shouldn't your motives be guided by principle? You're starting to sound like Karl Marx... only without logic.

Sigh... gee PW... now that you've straw-maned me I just can't be bothered... you're not really serious...

Politics is Politics? Content/context counts... I'm outta here...

:-O

My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard,

And their like

It's better than yours,

Damn right it's better than yours,

I can teach you,

But I have to charge

I know you want it,

The thing that makes me,

What the guys go crazy for.

They lose their minds,

The way I wind,

I think its time

[Chorus x2]

La la-la la la,

Warm it up.

Lala-lalala,

The boys are waiting

Yea... I went Brit with the Stilton because it pains me to get into the whole Italian/French battle over cheese-wine-bread.

I'm Italo-Americano (that was hard enough) living in France...

I'm TORN!

When I was young I helped my Dad plant tomato plants. He got some horse manure that was really ripe. I was the only one not afraid to mix up that slop. I would thrust my hands and arms into it and mix it with water... then pour it into every hole... being careful too put a little dirt between the plant and the toxic bomb of ripeness...

So many tomatoes that year! And so delicious.

Bop you must be psychic… cause one year it WAS chicken manure!

Or would that be physic?

Were they neocon chickens?

I find Puccini sometimes cheesy... when I'm in a bad mood.

Stick to the thread man! It's about cheese, shit and chickens!

Ok... you made me laugh...

But a litle CSC wouldn't do anybody any harm eh?

Cheesy politicos...

A chicken in every pot...

It's a load of...

Or is it?

but I just thought of trying to make tomato soup French Onion style... with fresh bread and melted cheese on top!

vive le soup!

is too old to win... prop the old guy up for one last run around.

Democrats are going to win because the economy is going to TANK. Bushonomics will be blamed. All the money they threw at Iraq bankrupted the economy...

The MSM can softball all they like... It's the economy...

The fact is there are some Obama supporters who will not support Clinton. This has nothing to do with a cult of personality. Clinton is a polarizing figure. Obama has some independents and so-called Regan Democrats that will not vote for her but can support him. While it may be true that some of the younger people out there supporting Obama may go a bit over the top, I think Krugman’s analysis is biased against Obama.

For the record I’m leaning Obama but would vote for Clinton over a Republican.

You said in a earlier letter:

"I would never dream of calling Obama supporters strident."

Really? What happened?

And next time be sure the person you quote is not a troll.

you're sick... but great post... funny and sharp... apparently the side effects on most flu meds that warn, "Do not operate machinery" doesn't apply to blogging...