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Tuesday, July 28, 2009 04:47 PM

Titonwan

Not until you swooped in all protective and sensitive and shit. So thanks for directing my attention where it wouldn't have gone until you point out the over Jewishness of the article. Hey! Them guys are both Jewish! Well, I'll be...

I am beginning to think that this is his actual goal, so persistent is he in his accusations and bloviations.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 04:40 PM

You need to lay off.

The seductive narratives are plentiful, and appear on this board all the time. That Israel is a country of evil snarling supervillains, founded by corrupt global banking industries working through America, abusing the tragedy of the Holocaust for financial gain, working through secret teachings in the academic institutions and control of the international press, through Hollywood imagery, to enslave the poor, innocent Palestinians, etc. etc.

Your putz'll be raw.

Greenwald's premise was that Israel was militarily abusing Gaza, without any context for the why, the where, the result of Hamas's military smuggling, etc. Greenwald's second premise was that American support for Israel is one-sided, against our national interests, and the preeminent reason why "they hate us."

This has nothing to do with Glenn's topic today. Everything to do with your own personal obsessions.

This convenient bogeyman -- the foreign country with its secret agents working in Washington -- is as laughably cartoonish as it is powerfully seductive.

And you should be ashamed of yourself for pimping your thesis in Glenn's comment section.

Seriously....

The response of the criticized to use the false criticism to pre-emptively dismiss all criticism is just as fraudulent as the false critic.

Greenwald uses the fraudulence of the Neocons to shield himself from all critique. This is the Boy Who Cried Wolf fallacy.

Sometimes the sheep are actually being eaten.

The fact the boy cried wolf too many times does not prove that sheep cannot be eaten by wolves. It just gives wolves the cover they needed to perpetuate their sheep eating.

...you should be writing for a takeoff of The Onion instead of a thesis.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 04:26 PM

IOW: Two Wrongs Make a Right (or at least a Rationalization)

Our country had slaves for hundreds of years. We massacred millions of Native Americans. We stole Texas from Mexico. We rounded up Japanese and put them in internment camps three years before Israel was formed.

This is not to excuse Israel's many abuses towards the Palestinians. It is only to seek real world context.

You're a real piece of work.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 04:16 PM

Thank you, rr (if I may)

I am contentious by nature, as any member of my family will tell you. And I believe in the fight, but it isn't easy.

I meant loons, avian in nature. One of my favorite sounds are the loons, at dusk, on a warm summer evening.

Enough is enough. Keep your religion to yourself, practice it freely in your home and places of worship and anywhere else in the public sphere where it isn't intrusive or disruptive of secular endeavors. That's what the Constitution guarantees. Nothing more nothing less.

Agreed.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 04:02 PM

Must one footnote each time?

To make legitimate criticisms of Israel, and there are many to be made, to make legitimate criticisms of the Neocons, of the banking industry and anywhere else, one must be aware not to slip into the seductive power of the dark side of seductive mythologies of grand global banking conspiracies, filled with hook nosed supervillains plotting the destruction of the nation-state.

Or will a blanket disclaimer and a little * in the text do for those who still dare to critique in the face of your misplaced ardor?

* "This post not intended to feed into fantasies of grand global banking conspiracies, filled with hook nosed supervillains."

seductive power of the dark side of seductive mythologies

That's "seductive" squared. Yeah, that's powerful.

Is this tripe in your thesis???

the rage directed at me should tell you that I'm hitting a cultural nerve for a reason.

In your dreams. We're not angry. Most of us are laughing...but go ahead and submit that thesis. Let us know how it turns out.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 03:47 PM

Contradicts himself (and proves Glenn's point) in the same breath, if not the same sentence and paragraph.

To Greenwald, this is an "attempt to silence" by disingenuous liars, presumably right wingers who abuse charges of "anti-Semitism" to silence legitimate argument.

While there is no doubt some clowns like Bill Kristol and Marty Peretz abuse charges of anti-Semitism,

PDA, rack up another own-goal. Our boy's going for a hat trick. ;-}

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 03:41 PM

Thesis revealed (thank you Heru)

racism and the double-standard presented towards the idea of structural bigotry against Jewish people.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 03:34 PM

RWiSFoM (Reading While in a Smutty Frame of Mind)

No matter what Krystol says, he can't do anything except by convincing the powerful - and his efficacy at such is exaggerated by those and only those who long to have pens as mighty as swords.

Needless to say, I did not read that correctly on the first try.

Although, I do think that what I thought it said is probably equally true for ol' Billy. ;-}

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 03:27 PM

Having hallucinations or just making shit up. You decide!

To think Strauss would've respected a craven fraud like Bill Kristol is to do an injustice to Strauss.

Who thinks that? Show us a quote or admit you just make shit up and dish it out hoping something sticks.

The actual post dealt with what the Kristol's (Li'l and Big) had to think about Strauss. Not the other way around.

Kristol's dad, Irving, the so-called Godfather of Neoconservatism, was a devout follower of what he understood to be Strauss' belief that feeding lies to citizens is necessary for good political ends:


Kristol has acknowledged his intellectual debt to Strauss in a recent autobiographical essay. "What made him so controversial within the academic community was his disbelief in the Enlightenment dogma that 'the truth will make men free.'"
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 03:18 PM

If this is true...

doesn't make it crazy to fear it if you are one of the lucky ones to be the first beloved of god.

....then one would be hard-pressed to convince anyone that atheism does not have its appeals.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 03:08 PM

voodooz

My sympathies on your pastoral problems.

I have the Right Rev'run Rod Parsely in my backyard.

Tuesday, July 28, 2009 03:03 PM

rrheard

What have you got against loons?

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