How people can see and know the horrors of war yet still advocate for it so easily.

They must have some sort of "filter" that keeps them from seeing and knowing. The Bush supporters I know go out of their way to ignore and minimize their contact with anything that might make them face the misery that they enable. It is a truly mind-boggling form of denial.

Someone up-thread titled a post "La-la-la-la I can't hear you". It is that on steroids. They are like the little monkeys See-no-evil and Hear-no-evil combined, but leaving out the Speak-no-evil third (of course).

I don't believe that Cheney and the other neocons are doing what they're doing strictly for the money. Instead they are "fanatic" in their beliefs that America should rule the world and be the Empire she was destined to be.

It's the power that draws them and money is just one means of acquiring the power they seek. Autocratic ambition is the filter that keeps them from seeing the wreckage - it isn't "wreckage" to them, it's the price they willingly pay to win power. The cost simply does not matter.

Jackson believed that evil should be confronted with power. His support for civil rights and equality at home, married to his opposition to detente,[16] his support for human rights and democratic allies, and his firm belief that the United States could be a force for good in the world inspired a legion of loyal aides who went on to propound Jackson's philosophy as part of neoconservatism.

So it seems that the difference between "us" and "them" may just boil down to the definition of the words "good" and "evil", and once again we are back in the manichean world that Glenn exposed so thoroughly in his book.

Matters of conscience such as civil rights, equality at home and human rights have all been deemed not necessary - and have been surgically removed where possible - by the neocons, and the allies we now support don't have to have anything democratic about them. In fact, their support for democracy is irrelevant. They only need to ask, "How high?" when we say, "Jump."

Two sexually repressive societies trying to sort it all out. No wonder it all got lost in the cultural and linguistic translation.

That's it in a nutshell - dysfunction squared.

I do a cartwheel too.

-- bebop-o

...nothing beats a roll down a long, green-grassy hill.

Bush may remain unpopular, and the Republican "brand" unattractive. But I believe the toughness of Giuliani, the sobriety of Thompson, the gravitas of McCain--any of these would be very difficult for the Democratic nominee to overcome.-- Bill Kristol

Bebop-o needs to share his green t-mint leaves with sardine-breath Bill. Me, I don't like fish of any kind. Blech.

I like hibiscus-flower tea. All dizzy people should stick together. Roll down grassy-green hills at night, lay on our backs and watch the stars spin around us. If we share the stars with others, maybe they will join us?

I Can Tell You This

I'm not going to tolerate any crititcism of Hillary.

-- The Notorious W.E.S.

...before your ears burst into flames and the ashes fall off your head. ;->

This forum is all about equal opportunity criticism, and praise as well, when candidate actions warrant it. No one gets a pass.

A lesson that they taught the military was that a Rumsfeld could filter the officer corps to get a compliant military. Anybody who doesn't perform to administration demands is run off. When it's time to attack Iran, they will have an officer who will order it.

This post, and the comment above by ScepticalGeek, coupled with the recent "accidental" shipment of nuclear weapons to Barksdale (which someone else mentioned a while back was a staging area for the ME) makes me wonder if they haven't already found their 'compliant' officer.

If they have, then I have to wonder about Gates. Either he is not as reluctant to entertain Cheney's wishes as some have protrayed him, or they've found a way to do an end run around him.

Has anyone heard anything more about an investigation into this transshipment which wasn't "ever supposed to happen with all the safeguards we have in place"? Seems to me someone's head should have rolled by now for this 'mistake'.

Well, before any Republican could vote for it, it's up to the MAJORITY party in the Congress to put forth a resolution condemning Limbaugh. Where is it? Haven't seen it yet.

Let ME know when the Democrats send up a resolution.

Resolutions don't have to be submitted by the majority party. All you need to look at is Kyl-Lieberman to know that. Where do you get your information on how Congress works?

Sure, it would be nice if they did submit a resolution slapping Rush's wrist and forcing the Republicans to put up or stop whining when their own tactics are used against them, but it does not have to originate with them.

No. The MoveOn Resolution was sponsored and introduced by John Cornyn. He's a Republican.

-- GlennGreenwald

I've still got my panties in such a twist about Kyl-Lieberman that I'd forgotten that the MoveOn Resolution originated with Cornyn.