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healthyskeptic
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a fight?
[Read the article: "Fringe liberal bloggers"]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Compromise is bullshit though, if you don't put up a healthy fight first.
You don't seem to realize how totally backwards that is.
You don't approach politics by pitting one hardliner kooky side against the other. That's like hoping if the US forces pour enough fuel on the fire in Iraq, peaceful democracy will ensue.
Hardliner winger battles just alienate people and makes them think all government and politics are crazy, which suppresses voter turnout, and hurts the left far more than the right I would add.
Politics are the art of compromise. One "wins" in politics by putting forth the most appealing and reasonable sounding proposal, balancing idealism with pragmatism, and then passing it. And then, if all goes well and as promised, taking the next step.
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@Kitt
[Read the article: "Fringe liberal bloggers"]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Johnny Cash sold albums to hippies. So what? What on earth is that supposed to prove about political moderates and how they felt about the counter-culture movement.
Are you arguing that the political center didn't generally despise hippies, that they didn't hurt the left, and that the Reagan era which followed wasn't in part due to a backlash against the counter culture movement?
Get real.
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@ orbitboy
[Read the article: "Fringe liberal bloggers"]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Let me know when (if) you have anything substantive to say, beyond attempts to be witty at about the elementary school level.
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generalize that
[Read the article: "Fringe liberal bloggers"]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]To the other nitwits who don't have anything substantive to say, beyond metaphors for the country as a "big bus" and other nonsense.
When people talk about fringe bloggers and their audience, just look at the posters here. What a bunch of goof balls.
They can't be representative of Greenwald's larger audience, because Greenwald and his comments are far more intelligent than the stuff I see here.
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@lame
[Read the article: "Fringe liberal bloggers"]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]It's called "standing up for your convictions.
If your initial proposal is totally unpopular with the electorate, i.e. a fringe position, it's called being an idiot, and how to lose elections.
You sound like brain is composed of a wad of hippie bumper stickers.
Get a clue.
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@ Karen
[Read the article: "Fringe liberal bloggers"]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]You mentioned only Salon's Broadsheet in your original criticsm of feminists on Salon
This thread is on the broader context of left blogs, whether there is a significant amount of fringe bloggers, and whether they're a detriment to the left. In that context, I cited Broadsheet. I further linked broadsheet to "feministing" (with the FU logo) and "bitch" because they are in the same circles, have the same format and agenda, and Salon links to both of them.
So, why aren't you writing comments like that on some RWA blog where they'll report it back to Karl to tell to Bush?
In case you didn't notice, they're finding out on their own about blowback from adopting fringe policies, because all the fringe policies they endorsed have been complete fuckups.
What really amazes me is that you seem to think this is a good strategy we should emulate.
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hello?
[Read the article: "Fringe liberal bloggers"]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]He didn't just "sell albums to hippies".
I never said he just sold albums to hippies. Learn to read.
He sold good music, and some people agreed with his plitcs more or less. It doesn't mean he, or his politcs, could run for office.
Only an insignificant percentage of America's 300+ million population ever owned a Johnny Cash album, so you're not doing much towards any point.
The percentage of the public represented by hippies and other fringe elements of the left were 5-10% of the population at it's peak. But that was enough to do enormous harm to the left because they were so prominent.
Similarly, the religious wackos and neocons and other fringe of the right only represent about 10% of Americans, but they're also enough to do enormous harm because they're so prominent.
If you look at the middle, it is gradually liberalizing and moving left at a fairly steady pace, and tends to be repelled by extremes, reacting hostilely to upheaval. If one wants to see the country move forward at the optimal pace, let the rt wingnuts piss the middle off and push them left, and don't let the left fringe do the same.