and whilst I never wanted to go on about it myself out of courtesy if nothing else was the fact that everything keeps on coming back to that damned date.

Then stop. Out of courtesy. Unless of course you can't control yourself which it seems painstakingly clear that you can't.

Uh, no "everything" doesn't. What does "keep coming back to that damned date" is 99.99% of your comments.

There is an honest debate to be had on "that topic", but not with you, and not here. Ever. Unless that "is the specific topic" which it rarely if ever is.

Do you get it yet?

you mean the "technical" requirements of the Constitution (also know as the law)?

As Glenn has amply demonstrated, nobody is being acquitted of anything in these "show trials" otherwise they wouldn't be "assigned" to that venue in the first instance.

If the state failed to meet its burden because it was penalized via the exclusionary rule for "coercing unreliable confessions" and that's all the "evidence" the state had of an accused's guilt . . . then the "system of justice" worked exactly as it should.

I guarantee you, YOU don't want it working any other way if YOU'RE in the "hot seat" and the only "evidence" they have of YOUR guilt is a "confession beaten or tortured out of you."

But the bedwetting babies on the right have already deduced, before any evidence has been presented, that they are guilty of some crime (that's the most mindlessly dangerous perversion of justice and the Constitution I can even imagine).

LL you are really missing your calling. Move to American and start your own church--The Temple of 9-11. You'd be rich in a fortnight because there are literally that many people in America who are just deluded enough to pay you handsomely to listen to your empty-headed musings.

Here I'll write your 5 Commandments:

1) Listen you stupid ponces, it was teh nanothermite and teh gravity. No aeroplanes struck the towers or the Pentagon.

2) There is absolutely no contemporaneous video or audio to be found from that day in Liberia, Moldavia, Burkina Faso, Uzbekistan, or North Korea.

3) There were reports dating back 18 months prior to 9-11 of mysterious three foot high "secret government agent explosives gnomes" coming and going at all hours of the day and night from 1, 2 and 7 WTC towers. 1000s of people saw them but haven't said a word because $1.5 million apiece was deposited under the names of Fido, Buddy, Chet, and Jake in secret Panamanian bank accounts.

4) Never before in the history of mankind have unexpected events arisen from unintended or highly unpredictable events, because it is well known scientific fact that man is the master of his universe. All things are simple binary cause and effect subject to the laws of chemistry, physics, and engineering science. We know this because all practitioners of those "white arts" agree on everything categorically.

5) No one can doubt the truth of what I say, because well, I said it and I'm British and a direct descendent of Sir Isaac Newton and Hans Goldschmidt. And when I say it, especially when I say it colloquially and with passion, based on my direct lineage, anyone who doubts me becomes by definition a f*cking ponce and not fit to handle my croquet mallet.

I know this for a fact because I traded the secret blueprints to the Ossillation Overthruster to John Bigbooty and John Smallberries for a tidy little sum that John Parker and I ultimately split and used to buy condos in the Bahamas with.

And they possess this "special ability" as a result of being abducted and "probed" by aliens on 9-12 in the hope they would spread "teh troof" for their own narrow benefit which is their stock holdings in YoyoDyne Propulsion Systems Inc..

Obviously because only the truly "special people" among us have the highly refined cognitive capacity to perceive "teh troof".

That must be why it is so incredibly manddening to them. What is so patently obvious to them is hidden from the masses.

Patient #287 has slipped his straightjacket and is running up and down the halls smacking his John Thomas vigorously.

Attention all orderlies Code 7 Ward 12.

that a bunch of fairly straightforward criminal prosecutions would be all screwed up because some dumbasses felt it necessary to torture the accused. Or renditioning the accused all over the planet to be tortured. Or give them no access to counsel and then sweat em out the old-fashioned way. Oh wait actually torture is the old-fashioned way.

In any event I just didn't see this coming. Just like no one on the planet could have predicted "you know what". Absolutely no way bone chillingly stupid amoral policies and actions would lead to necessary consequences.

It's just patently obvious that this all has to do with American girls wearing mini-skirts and the best way to preserve our liberty and freedom is to curtail it and bastardize the Constitution. Little more than a god-damned piece of paper indeed.

Just goes to show us nattering nabobs of negativity don't know dinky-doo about anything.

What are you napping down there on the beach?

Zorkna doing what he does.

LL making everything about "you know what."

Old Goldsilverwhatchamacallit must have drawn the short straw of Glenn's patience today early on which left an opening for the Katzenjammer Kids to streak on through buck naked.

The power of their twin obsessions is truly amazing, maddening, and downright sad.

More thorazine and less computer time I say.

But maybe its like propping a fussy kid in front of the boob tube for some Barney time. In this case the hall monitors of "teh crazy" can get back to their pinochle and dominoes just by positioning their wards in front of the nearest laptop to let them furiously type away on keyboards connected to the "interwebs".