Pablo, The whole point of recycling with aluminum is that the material goes back into a new can. At 60 % plus recycling in the USA (Europe is much higher) every can you drink from has greater that 50 % recycled material. No other container comes close, not glass, not plastic. In fact I don't think any plastic goes back into another container. Almost all recycling of aluminum cans takes place at plants making aluminum can stock. Some goes into steel making.

Aluminum is made from dirt. Yep, 11 % of the earth's crust is aluminum. Takes a lot of energy to get it into the metal form put it stays there once "smelted". I rather drink from a dirt container, than one made from oil. (Glass too is made from dirt -- called sand.)

Deblacksmith

"Is the media going to understand and be able to explain what the Republicans just did? Yes, that's a rhetorical question."

Thanks Glenn, it is sad, but at least you made me laugh a little.

Deblacksmith

No credit card debt, own home, I will give 10 percent to the church, and save the rest til things get really bad -- and they will, result of the wonderful Bush years.

Dave

The Germans used to board window rows first, (if I remember right). But since retiring -- in 2000 I keep off planes as much as possible. (I had 4,000,000 plus miles back then.)

You have lost it Joan. You just don't get it anymore.

Times up, games over, etc. Stop trying so hard to fix the unfix-able.

deblacksmith

Not only did the Black Death raise the wages of the working class it greatly expanded the use of water power. With labor in short supply new technology was pushed -- in this case water power. Other labor savings also followed.

deblacksmith

I hate to fly -- and I am not going back unless I have to. I have been retired a few years but was a plus 2,000,000 miles flyer. We drive if we can, I hate airports and airlines.

I don't feel sorry for anyone in the airline business, from management to employees. You have done it to yourselves -- now fix it yourselves. Don't tell me about costs -- tell me how you are going to fix the crap service. I and many others would pay for what we had 30 years ago.

Deblacksmith

As noted Dole is from North Carolina not Tennessee. We hope that that will no longer be the case after Jan 20, 2009. Maybe she can find work as a volunteer with the Red Cross.

Dave

Dole long ago lost my vote when she as a former head of the American Red Cross voted with Bush to torture people. You can't have it both ways, you either have values or you don't.

She is worthless,

deblacksmith,

Brasstown, NC

I thought he was going when he wasn't include in a NYT ad for their Op Ed pages back in November. But come January he was still at it. Well I was just off by a month.

deblacksmith

I don't fly much anymore -- had enough of that before I retired. I used to do about 10 international round trips per year. On expense account we flew business or first class and it was always my practice to say hello to the flight deck with an early boarding. Since I worked for a major aluminum company I often had the chance to comment that they we were flying on metal that had been rolled at Alcoa's Davenport works. (Most of Boeing's and a good portion of Airbus.) I kept the conversations short but they were always friendly.

This was all pre 9-11, but even now I don't miss those long flights.

What, why do men think they have a say on this subject? We can try to understand -- but we can't.

Maybe we could stop some of this, if O'Wrongly really was made to pay for this.

Dave

Why do we even care what Jack Welch says. He did as much or more than any other American business leader to destroy American industry. Under Jack Welch GE came to stand for Go Elsewhere.

Retired from the metals industry.

deblacksmith

My mother too just past away - but at 95. No matter the age we only have one mother -- Bless her.

Dave