I am a white, privileged, educated Boomer Classic feminist woman who supported Hillary until she, in effect, released her supporters and said she was going to campaign for Obama. That's the process, and I will be voting for Obama in the fall. I am a lifelong liberal Democrat, except in matters of defense, in which case I consult a number of specialists, do my own reading, and make up my own mind.

No one else makes it up for me.

I do think that Obama's weak in foreign policy, and I'm a little suspicious of the oratory, and that's something I'm going to have to deal with. But he's infinitely preferable to McCain.

I am neither a PUMA nor a cougar, nor a succubus, nor menopausal, nor a bitch, nor selfish, nor an Old Bag, or

harridan or any of the words with which the Obamatrons have essentially been having a verbal orgasm, like so many horny Yorkies on steroids. (Yes, I too can sling invective. I can also punctuate, spell, and use capitalization correctly.)

Do you want my vote? You've got it. You've heard a number of people say the same thing, but it seems as if you want more than my vote. I never drank Kool-Aid even before Jonestown. I certainly don't drink it now. It makes me worry that Obama's most emphatic supporters could damage his candidacy.

Frankly, here's how I see it. I went through the demonstrations of the late 1960s and early 1970s. We all did some pretty idiotic things in the service of ideology. We also did some pretty good ones, which is one reason you all have the street cred that enables you to run about polluting the badwidth now. But even at the worst of SDS, SCUM, Stokely and the others, I don't think I've seen so many spoiled, noisy and counterproductive fools in my life.

You want the vote: you've got it. You want me to drink Kool-Aid?

Go to hell.

I know this election is important. I'd vote in any case, but it's more important now.

I agree: I'll vote, but the sexism expressed in the various tantrums here is very revealing. I frankly don't see much difference between it and the people who say "feminazi."

Whitecat, I understand what you're doing, although I don't agree with it. I too have been expecting comments about violence: the level of verbal violence is pretty appalling as it stands. Left-wing angry misogynists, anyone? One 'bot will never vote for a woman. I wonder if it gets a female boss if it'll quit.

Grumpus, I'm not voting for -your- cause, but for a presidential candidate. I don't need to be thanked for doing my job as a citizen. If I want anything from you, it's to see someone wash your mouth out with soap. Take a line from your leader and speak like an articulate gentleman. It's much more convincing.

But what am I saying? I keep my friends close and my enemies closer. The worse the language gets, the more revealing I find it, and the language here is pretty bad in terms of sexism.

I don't agree with SeattleBarb, but she has a right to her opinion without getting blasted by what I really have to summarize by "we destroyed the party in order to save it."

Take a look at your name calling, both of Republicans and women. I'll give you this much: you've got the people who called the U.S. "Amerika" back in the day beat for sheer vitriol.

But those people helped create the culture wars we're now entrenched in.

Do you think you're helping your cause? I'm voting for the man too, and I think that with friends like you, he doesn't need enemies.

Not every registered voter in the U.S. is a foul-mouthed misogynist. Some are foul-mouthed; some are misogynists; most are neither.

That being the case, if you get any kind of bully pulpit (because you are a verbal bully), you're going to turn off a lot of people. Then, of course, you can play disloyal opposition, like the PUMAs you excoriate with such bad logic.

Ego trip or political campaign? If you're a campaign worker, you can't have both.

Thank you for your service.

Dataguyx, please pay attention to Zenhead. He has a hell of a lot more reason to feel aggrieved than you do. He's not slinging about insults that make him feel good at the expense of anyone he happens to disagree with.

If you cared about your candidate as much as Zenhead cares about his ethics, you wouldn't be slinging around the stupids and the morons and the bitches.

If Obama loses this election, I am personally going to blame every one of the 'bots, who threw themselves, mouths open and ranting, under McCain's bus.

Did you learn that this sort of noise was successful from Republicans?

I can't approve that kind of language from anyone.

But, of course, since it happened to Saint Santos, it's much, much, much worse.

And if I don't believe that, all I have to do is listen, and he will tell me, and of course, I will listen and ponder in my heart.

NFW. You see precisely how harmful that language is, whoever is dishing it out.

If I don't spare myself anything -- and I don't, why on earth should I spare you?

Dataguyx, thank you. Keep that type of post up, and you stand a chance of a rapprochement that we all need.

Santos, "democrat party"? I hate it too. Outed Republican or not, however, Zenhead is a veteran of a war that has divided this country. As a veteran, he deserves our thanks.

Ruwood. Precisely, and thank you.