I missed the part about how casual sex was healthy. Was that in the article somewhere ? It seems to me that feminism is now about embracing anything they interpret that men can do....even their worst behaviors. I don't know about the rest of you, but I never thought casual sex was healthy for me, men in general or women. In fact most of the guys I went to school with who had a host of "hookup sex" are still single 30 years later. What casual sex seemed to do to them is detach the emotional aspect of sex from the physical. It's not always easy to get that back. Clearly TCF feels this was good for her. I wonder if people around her would agree. What women like TCF should start thinking about is, just because women can now do everything that a man can do, does that mean they should ?

PS I don't know how culture is defined around here, but I never respected male or female sluts. This double standard business appears to be only present in the feminist echo chamber.....and maybe with 15 year old boys.

If Mrs. McCain said the same thing it would have been empowering !

This type of demonstration is good for Obama. It sends a message to middle america that the foaming at the mouth feminists are not supporting Barack. That's a good message for his candidacy.

"The roles are imposed by the rest of society, which places the husband's needs higher in the hierarchy than the wife's needs."

Based on your opinion. I would say the majority of the US disagrees with you. Most of the decisions my wife and I make are based on what's best for our children.....in our opinion. You shouldn't conflate your views with all women's views. I think you will find your opinion is in the minority no matter how enlightened you think you are. Are you saying only you (or feminists) can make independent decisions outside of society's pervasive role ?

"Those folks who want to go back to "traditional" marriages where Mom stays home and cares for a pack of kids, loves/honors/obeys etc. have to want and push for the rest of the package too."

Obey is probably not accurate, although we both love and honor each other. go back is also a reach, since the majority still have "traditional" marriages. Not that I care which you choose.

"There need to be millions of quality, affordable homes in safe, supportive communities for those Average American families to live and grow in."

Check. We couldn't afford a home in connecticut so we moved to georgia where we could afford to live on one income. We drove beatup old cars, we scrounged. It worked. And we are decidedly middle class

"There needs to be a high quality health care system that the Average American family can afford on what Dad alone earns."

Check. Always had good healthcare for the family based on my job. My wife works now, but she is still on my plan.

"There needs to be an affordable-on-what-Dad-makes preschool-through-Ph.D. educational system that adequately trains all the kids of the next generation for the good-paying stable 9-5 jobs with excellent benefits that will be there for them."

Check. I fully expect to afford to pay for my children to go to college based on my salary. Although, for sure I expect them to pay some as well. Builds character.

"There needs to be an affordable-on-what-Dad-makes high-quality old-age system so that people are not sandwiched between trying to care for their elders and children at the same time."

Check. Although Dad went to college and has a retirement plan and lives very comfortable with mom, going on 50 years now.

"There needs to be a tax system that is fair and reflects the reality of what things cost today, not the fantasy of decades past."

Check. Sort of. Inflation comes and gos, you need to be prepared for rough patches.

Put all those things in place *first* and then we'll talk about "traditional" marriages. Not just for the few but for the many.

Those things are generally in place for families that have fathers. Sounds like you have it backwards. By breaking up traditional families, and having no positive male role models, the american dream is disintegrating. The government will not be your daddy.

"Conservatives have long talked about "family values" but then don't say how the Average American is supposed to afford them after all the traditional support of those values is removed by their own actions."

Democrat talking here. Republican AND Democrats have enabled most of the middle class erosion.....so have feminists by devaluing men.

It's not a new trick; I recall a story where the workers were told they had to make bricks without straw.

I am sure you know a lot of good storys.

When the democrats run the show starting in Jan 09, I think you will see movement on this. The religious right's influence in the private sector will drop dramatically. This will be a huge boost for men to take control of their reproductive lives and will have far reaching effects on gender relations. Bring it on !

The so-called hoopla around Bill Clinton not speaking at the convention was, at least in my mind, a media generated scandal. Whenever Obama doesn't do something on the media's timeline the chatter starts. I certainly had no doubts Bill would be speaking.

On the matter of Mr. Clinton's response to the question about Obama's readiness. That was a disaster...for Bill. Each of these little faux pas that Bill and Hillary commit just make it easier for Obama to completely leave the Clinton's out of the new administration. From where I sit, that's a good thing, and I voted for Bill twice. No Drama !