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Published Letters: 2006

Wednesday, August 6, 2008 04:56 AM

@PTA Mom

Thanks a heap for the transcription!

BTW - I found this interesting -

"Q: And, we don’t have those tapes physically today, is that correct?

A: Um, the FBI does.

Q: And why do they have those tapes?

A: Um, because they need to enter it into evidence for the grand jury hearing."

How does the FBI tie 2008 rants with a 2001 crime?

Wednesday, August 6, 2008 05:21 AM

WaPo 1999 Wittman/Duley interview

Available via dailykos -

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/5/231824/6344/136/563292

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 05:33 AM

From WaPo - this really bothers me

One day in March, when Ivins was at a Frederick mall with his wife and son, the agents confronted the researcher and said, "You killed a bunch of people." Then they turned to his wife and said, "Do you know he killed people?" according to the scientist.

The same week, Ivins angrily told a former colleague that he suspected his therapist was cooperating with the FBI. On March 19, police were called to Ivins's home and found him unconscious. He was evaluated at Frederick Memorial Hospital.

Seems to me to be a deliberate attempt to break Ivins. Ivins must have felt really isolated - unable to even trust his therapist. FBI = Federal Bungling Intimidators. I wonder which TV show they picked their methods from.

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 05:39 AM

Daschle's letter

Daschle's letter of June 2001 complaining about the effectiveness of the anthrax vaccine then being administered to National Guardsmen may have provoked Ivins, according to this Hartford Courant article.

http://www.courant.com/news/nationworld/hc-anthrax0806.artaug06,0,5888202.story

Wednesday, August 6, 2008 05:44 AM

Complaints about the vaccine are much older

From 1999

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/july-dec99/anthrax_10-21.html

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 05:56 AM

Anthrax letters - how many women targets?

Investigators can't place Ivins in Princeton but say the evidence will show he had disturbing attitudes toward women.

How many women were targets of anthrax letters? How did Ivins' alleged disturbing attitudes (who was disturbed - not his wife, nor his children, nor his longstanding friends and colleagues) translate into mailing of anthrax letters?

I think one of the worst parts of this whole story is just how dumb the FBI, government, media, think that we are. An even worse part may be that they are justified in their opinion!!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080806/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/anthrax_investigation

Wednesday, August 6, 2008 09:12 AM

@cargocult

For what it is worth:

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?storyID=78408

'This is different:' Son of scientist who died in 1953 compares cases then and now

""What you've got now is different," Olson said in a telephone interview Monday.

"I'm not a conspiracy theorist. My father's case has to do with the enforcement of security when you're doing morally compromising activities. It had to do with covert operations. It wasn't that he was some Detrick scientist. He was working for the CIA. He was privy to what the CIA was doing.""

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 11:03 AM

@LiberalArtist

In following this amazingly freakish yet not wholly suprising story, I've found myself drawn to the human side of things, such as who Ivins really was...

Me too. As we learn more, I hope you write again.

Wednesday, August 6, 2008 11:45 AM

More on Ivins as a person

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?StoryID=78448

"As survivors and relatives of victims express skepticism about Bruce Ivins' guilt in the 2001 anthrax attacks, more personal vignettes surface that portray the accused scientist as a warm, funny, outgoing guy."

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008 12:34 PM

Which email?

The affadavit for a search warrant contains a lot of email. Which one is the damning one?

The posting from goldenphoenix111 in 2007 indicates that apparently Ivins' obsession with KKG was ongoing.

Wednesday, August 6, 2008 12:46 PM

Question

Was Ivins' daughter (now age 24) a member of kappa kappa gamma?

Wednesday, August 6, 2008 12:49 PM

RMR-1029

To me, if the RMR-1029 flask details are correct, then that is really significant.

Wednesday, August 6, 2008 12:58 PM

@seanmcbride

Ivins sent an e-mail to [REDACTED] a few days before the anthrax attacks warning [REDACTED] that “Bin Laden terrorists for sure have anthrax and sarin gas” and have “just decreed death to all Jews and all Americans,”

Why does that draw attention? Millions of Americans were thinking so too - that Bin Laden has decreed death to all Jews and all Americans, and that Bin Laden has anthrax.

E.g., here is a Sept 27, 2001 article from the New York Times (Ivins' email is from Sept 26), emphasis added.

" A NATION CHALLENGED: FEAR OF INFECTIONS; Anthrax Scare Prompts Run on an Antibiotic

By TAMAR LEWIN

Published: September 27, 2001

Many New Yorkers -- and to a lesser extent, people across the country -- are stocking up on Cipro, an antibiotic that they believe can be used to treat anthrax.

Most scientists say that taking Cipro after the appearance of symptoms of exposure to anthrax, a potentially deadly form of bacteria, is useless.

But Sebastian Manciameli, a pharmacist at Zitomer Pharmacy on Manhattan's Upper East Side, said: ''We can't keep it in stock. It started the day after the World Trade Center, with a few prescriptions, and now there's more and more.''

Mr. Manciameli added, ''I usually keep 100 tablets in stock, but this time I ordered 3,000 and sold out. One person bought 1,000 tablets.''

At the Village Pharmacy in the Boston suburb Brookline, Mass., Donald Silkes said that enough people had been asking about antibiotics to prompt him to place an extra order.

''They say, 'I've spoken with my doctors and we decided this would be the best in the case of anthrax,' '' Mr. Silkes said. ......

Wednesday, August 6, 2008 01:01 PM

Here's what the newspapers were repeating

".....Mr. bin Laden's declaration of war on Feb. 23, 1998. He proclaimed from his Afghan redoubt: ''To kill Americans and their allies, both civil and military, is an individual duty of every Muslim who is able.''"

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