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Wednesday, June 10, 2009 01:58 PM

Looks like it's almost over in the appropriations bill

AP: It appears that House liberals opposed to a Senate provision to block the release of new detainee abuse photos are now likely to prevail. That earned a blistering retort from Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who co-authored the language in question and agrees with Obama that release of the photos would whip up anti-American sentiment and threaten U.S. service members.

"I think it's one of the most irresponsible things I've heard of," Graham told reporters. "They don't have our troops' back."

House liberals prevailed in the fight over detainee photos because their votes are needed to pass the measure since House Republican support has evaporated over the decision to add to the bill Obama's request for a new $108 billion U.S. line of credit to the International Monetary Fund to help poor countries deal with the world recession.

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But, it will show up again, like a bad penny. In addition to Lieberman/Graham pushing it, Rep. Conaway (TX-11) introduced the same amendment a few days ago - HR 2712: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:h.r.02712:

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 05:09 PM

Better get used to those saltines & pb, sysprog

In a partial reprieve for President Barack Obama, congressional Democrats plan to allow detainees held in the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to be brought onto U.S. soil for trial, two congressional aides said on Wednesday....

The Democratic compromise would permit detainees to be brought to the United States for trial but not permanent detention, the aides said, declining further identification because the details were not yet formally released.

The deal would also bar releasing any of the detainees into the United States through September 30, one of the aides said....

Democrats, who control the House and Senate, plan to include the provisions in a compromise $100 billion bill to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which they hope to push through the two chambers by next week.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE55977Z20090610

President Barack Obama had requested $80 million to shut down the prison at Guantanamo Bay. But after lawmakers complained that the administration had no plan for what would happen to the detainees, that money was removed.

Lawmakers also included a provision blocking the administration from transferring the detainees from Cuba to U.S. soil. But on Wednesday night, they gave in to White House concerns and softened that language to allow detainees to come to the U.S. for up to four months for trial -- but not to be imprisoned in the U.S. for the long term.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124467514949803967.html

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 05:38 PM

omooex

...it was stated quite candidly at the time and since that we were placing detainees outside of the continental US so that we could place them far from the protections of our legal system.

Coincidentally - this is really upsetting the right at the moment (though it's not clear yet whether or not it's true):

A senior Republican on the House Intelligence Committee is accusing the Obama administration of quietly ordering the FBI to start reading Miranda rights to suspected terrorists at U.S. military detention facilities in Afghanistan.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/10/lawmaker-says-obama-ordered-fbi-read-rights-detainees

Also see: http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjBhMTRhNGJiZDA0YjcyYWM1MzlmNTMwZTRiYmJjYmQ=

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/06/miranda_rights_for_terrorists.asp

Thursday, June 11, 2009 05:44 AM

Just for the record

The Lieberman/Graham detainee photo amendment did not make it into the FDA tobacco legislation because someone objected:

MR. DODD: I want to point out to my colleagues that this is now down to the last few votes on this matter. I had hoped we would have been able to consider some of the other amendments that were being offered. But as my colleagues, I think, are probably aware, one of the amendments to be considered was an amendment offered by my colleague Senator Lieberman. There was objection to that amendment coming up. As a result, we could not reach an agreement on allowing time for the other amendments to be considered, amendments offered by Senator Enzi, Senator Bunning, Senator Coburn, and Senator Hagan.

In fact, an amendment offered by Senator Enzi--he and I reached an agreement on that. It is regrettable that we weren't able to get to it. I hope we can fix it at another time. That is an example of what happened when we couldn't get unanimous consent to go forward. Nonetheless, I hope the substitute will be adopted, cloture will be invoked, and we can schedule a vote for final passage, as I believe we will, in the next day.

[Page: S6410] GPO's PDF: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2009_record&page=S6410&position=all

So, Lieberman backed down and voted for cloture on this bill after saying that if his "life and death" amendment wasn't included, he would vote against it.

Thursday, June 11, 2009 05:50 AM

Correction

The page # and link above are wrong. This is correct: [Page: S6411] GPO's PDF: http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2009_record&page=S6411&position=all

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