For over two years and each time FISA has come before Congress, more and more of us have signed up in favor of the rule of law.

The emails, faxes, phone calls have increased exponentially with each threat. In just a little under 2 weeks, 20,000 people have joined "Get Fisa Right" at, of all places, the presumptive Democratic nominee's web site. I can't even imagine what the money bomb will bring in.

Thanks to Glenn and others, we will have long-term vehicles with which to hold our government accountable.

You don't get it yet, dear leaders, but you'd better fasten your seatbelts - you're going to have a bumpy future.

..."faithfully support and defend the Constitution."

Joe Lieberman, just a few minutes ago on the floor of the Senate, reminded his colleagues of those very words. They slipped oh so smoothly from his tongue...

I just noticed that pow wow posted an update about the FISA amendments in the previous thread. Here's part of it, click my sig for the rest, including who to contact.

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*** H.R. 6304 Amendment Debate Commences Tuesday, July 8 ***

At approximately 11 a.m. EDT Tuesday, after an hour of morning business, the Senate will formally proceed to H.R. 6304 and debate will begin on the three amendments made in order to the pending bill. All votes have been postponed until Wednesday morning (per a UCA change adopted Monday to the unanimous consent agreement for this bill; the Senate will hold no rollcall votes on Tuesday).

The apparent voting order for the amendments is:

1. The Dodd/Feingold/Leahy amendment to strip telecom immunity. This amendment has been allotted a maximum of two hours for debate. It must receive a 51-vote simple majority to pass.

2. The Arlen Specter amendment to maintain the separation of powers by providing that the determination of the legality of the warrantless spying requests be made by the Judicial Branch. This amendment has been allotted a maximum of two hours for debate. It must receive a 60-vote supermajority to pass.

3. The Jeff Bingaman amendment (which is supported by Specter, among others) to stay the civil suits, pending the outcome of the mandated IG report, plus 90 days. This amendment has been allotted a maximum of one hour for debate. It must receive a 60-vote supermajority to pass.

The order of Tuesday's debate on the three amendments will likely vary throughout the day, as the managers of debate time for each amendment see fit. Presumably general debate on the bill itself will also be in order.

The Senate will stand in recess from 12:30 p.m. until 2:15 p.m. Tuesday (for the weekly Democratic caucus lunch).

Thus, if amendment debate starts at 11 a.m. Tuesday, and continues without interruption before and after the midday recess, the allotted time would expire at about 6 p.m. EDT (general bill debate not included). At which point the action carries over to Wednesday.

The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just. - Abraham Lincoln

*** H.R. 6304 Debate and Voting Concludes on Wednesday, July 9 ***

Starting at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday, as soon as the Senate convenes, and despite the fact that amendment votes will still be pending, the pre-cloture debate will begin, and last until about 11:15 a.m., when voting on the three amendments will begin.

The voting order, apparently, is Dodd/Feingold/Leahy (51), Specter (60), Bingaman (60), followed immediately by the vote on the motion to invoke cloture, because cloture's debate time will have elapsed before the amendment voting began (the cloture vote requires a 60-vote supermajority, which, if attained, will result in final passage of the bill shortly thereafter, with no intervening debate). Just 41 No votes will stop cloture and sustain Dodd's filibuster.

Until 2:00 ET

I believe it's more than the ranking members...Feingold said that 30 members of the Senate have been informed of the TSP, which is roughly the number of members of those committees.

Sorry, I just saw your second answer to the question. Feingold lamented that 70 Senators had not seen what he had. And you're right, it probably wouldn't make much difference.

If anyone else is having problems accessing C-Span, here's an alternate: http://www.fednet.net/asx/sflr.asx

Or go to http://www.fednet.net

Republicans make fantastic use of their ability to block legislation with only 41 No votes. And, yet, it seems to be a state secret that this time, the Democrats have that opportunity - as they had for years when in the minority, though you'd never know it (the MCA, Alito, Iraq funding, etc., etc.) - on this dreadful bill tomorrow.

I just don't have the words to convey the disgust I feel after reading this.

The 40 lawsuits were consolidated a while back and assigned to Judge Walker. The Al-haramain case doesn't affect the telecoms, but Judge Walkers opinion does.

Bad wording to mean that the case Judge Walker ruled on also affects the other cases.

Nancy Soderberg right now. That was great, Glenn.

Try this - click on my sig, then SENATE FLOOR DEBATE.

I'm a Democrat and have been all my life, but no one is above his or her oath to the Constitution.

They're voting on the first amendment now (Dodd/Feingold to strip immunity).

I wish they'd just get it over with. The final two votes (cloture, then the FISA amendment itself) will begin at 2:15.

They're voting on the Bingament amendment now (IG report before immunity).

The Bingamen amendment failed - 42/56.