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Thursday, February 26, 2009 10:57 AM
Original article: The fi-man-cial crisis

How much hot gay sex do you think I could have in a matriarchy like this? I'm thinking lots.

There is only one problem with your theory. None of the 90% of the male population willing to work this hard for women would be interested in sex with men. Why should they work for something if they can get something that is in any way equivalent for free.

Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:22 AM
Original article: The fi-man-cial crisis

Men can get over their need to be in charge by changing the defintion of certain words.

For instance when women get everything their own way it is not because they like to be in charge it is because their way is the only sane/reasonable/equal/decent way for things to be. One of the problems though with implementing this change in definition is that men have to prove themselves superior in order to attract women and women don't so this leads to a general tendency to want to be seen as on top.

Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:28 AM
Original article: The fi-man-cial crisis

but blame isn't going to help get us out of this lack of understanding for one another.

and neither is ignoring biology.

Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:22 PM
Original article: The fi-man-cial crisis

People have always needed people, for all kinds of reasons; considering how much I see women spending on their own appearance to increase their ability to attract men, I don't think you can really say they don't "emotionally need them".

Yes people need people but women, in the absence of any practical benefit from men, are more willing/able to get their needs met by other women/non sexual relationships. The feminine and feminist interpretation is that this proves womens' objective superiority the other alternative is that men are wired differently than women.

Thursday, February 26, 2009 01:49 PM

it's the same thing as it was with Clinton, the "wrong sort of person" just CAN'T legitimately be president

elections don't matter. This is the right wing mentality and the rest of the country needs to understand it and deal with it. We've been kissing their and ass and trying to meet them halfway, without any reciprocation, obviously, for far to long and we need to stop.

Thursday, February 26, 2009 07:06 PM
Original article: The fi-man-cial crisis

point to dick is that I don't see as much of a difference making life harder and less rewarding for men

It's really simple and it is completely unreasonable of you to keep denying it: the percentage of men who VOLUNTARILY give up with some reasonable degree of comfort is very tiny. The percentage of women who VOLUNTARILY give up and/or are reasonably comfortable doing so it quite large. You know it is true, so stop it. Who has it "harder" in a broader sense, who can say, not me.

Thursday, February 26, 2009 08:53 PM
Original article: The fi-man-cial crisis

I don't think he means it (the part about being happily out of it anyway)

and it seems that a lot of women do.

Friday, February 27, 2009 10:44 AM

DeMint obviously suffers from a rare form of Political Penis Envy.

It isn't rare

Friday, February 27, 2009 10:50 AM

the Democrats in Congress apparently aren't interested in gun control and I don't know if Obama really is either

maybe they are more aware than we sometimes give them credit for.

Friday, February 27, 2009 11:01 AM

in order to get a full accounting you have to first account for how much of the work has to be done at all or done the same way

because it NEEDS to be or whether it is just the way she likes it. Paying for it may NEVER have mad sense. You also need to consider how many household expenses, upgrades, renovations, etc are really for the household or are really just entertainment for the wife (obviously in fairness the same should examination be applied to the husband). "If you care do it yourself" women say this to men all the time, why can't men say it to women.

Friday, February 27, 2009 11:07 AM

the sex business is down too, another womans job for which the outsourcing funds have dried up

see, EVERYONE is suffering.

Friday, February 27, 2009 11:49 AM

you CAN force the issue if you can't plan and execute some sort of reasonable arrangement

DON"T WASH HIS CLOTHES, then he will have to deal with it. Microwaveable food bought on sale is quite cheap too.

Friday, February 27, 2009 11:57 AM
Original article: The fi-man-cial crisis

Men step up, take responsibility, help these young boys who desperately need your .....sing their moms. Take your place in society as the role models you should be. Teach your son to communicate instead of using his fists.

When we can get to it, but all the time is taken up dealing with women who refuse to be anything other continually hysterical when anything, big or small, is not EXACTLY the way they want it.

Friday, February 27, 2009 12:12 PM

to be clearer

if she doesn't care if they ever have sex he can have sex by himself. If he doesn't care whether the house gets cleaned or not she can clean it herself.

Friday, February 27, 2009 01:13 PM
Original article: The fi-man-cial crisis

a lot of these issued could be clarified (I don't say resolved) if there were a willingness to look at gender biology clearly

but it can't be conveniently selective. We are all familiar with the feminine/feminist tendency to view any area where men don't see things the same as women are evidence of oppressive intention or defectiveness but trying to say that a 14 year old having sex with an adult means the same thing whether the 14 year old is male or female or trying to figure out some way that "choice for men" can work is equally (well maybe not QUITE equally) misguided.

Friday, February 27, 2009 01:26 PM

the existence of these services is a huge problem in an of itself. The only reason anyone but a tiny tiny TINY group can afford to pay people to do all this stuff

is because there is a large group of people who are economically unable to function. If everyone had a decent education and we didn't import slaves from the 3rd world very few people could afford to pay someone to wipe their ass (unless it was medically necessary). Some things, like the industrial production of microwaveable food, result in a real economic gain overall but jobs that can't be done inherently more efficiently by one person than another, such as mowing the lawn, cleaning the bathroom or general housekeeping are, and should be seen as, the equivalent of some 18th century nobleman having 5 servants standing around to hand him things.

Friday, February 27, 2009 01:42 PM
Original article: The fi-man-cial crisis

it needs to be done but one of the problems is that the payoff is clear; you still have to decide what to do

looking for for "objective proof" that your way is the one and only right way is far more emotionally appealing.

Friday, February 27, 2009 01:45 PM
Original article: The fi-man-cial crisis

the payoff ISN'T clear

that should be

Friday, February 27, 2009 01:50 PM
Original article: The fi-man-cial crisis

i.e. by saying or implying that any area where men don't see things the same as women are evidence of oppressive intetion or defectiveness from women.

in theory maybe, or in the past, but in practice now this doesn't seem to be much of a problem; for instance I don't hear much talk by men that they are oppressed by a feminist conspiracy because women don't keep house or cook the way men want them to.

Friday, February 27, 2009 02:03 PM

I know this is not the case in every single household in America. I know that. But for you people who think this article is either an exaggeration or a nefarious feminist plot: .... Talk to a few of the moms in the PTA and you'll get an earful!

I agree this is the predominant view and the question is: Why do the majority of women in America feel they have the right to tell their husbands what to do and how to do it and feel victimized and abused when there is anything other than than complete cooperation in response while men would never dream of giving orders in this way and if they tried it the response would be "do it yourself" (at the very least).

Friday, February 27, 2009 02:35 PM
Original article: The fi-man-cial crisis

you've got to admit though that, regardless of what some of the underlying larger issues may be, a guy who puts hot sauce in a used condom

and then tells his girlfriend about it is suffering from multiple and various deficiencies.

Friday, February 27, 2009 03:01 PM

if it were only about things that have a clear rational basis

there wouldn't be the conflict that there is.

Friday, February 27, 2009 03:04 PM

I would REALLY like to see some way of objectively measuring how much women REALLY listen to what men tell them.

In my experience and that of most men I know they do it very little if at all yet they all claim to do it a lot.

Friday, February 27, 2009 03:31 PM

if there is a situation where no rational person could deny that there was a problem and no rational person could deny that there was only one way to address it

I don't believe that very many men could afford to ignore it. You may be the rare exception but in almost every case we are really talking about emotional preferences.

Friday, February 27, 2009 04:30 PM

So "Let him do it himself!" is fine for the adults, but it doesn't work with kids in the house

This is the tough one alright. Everything else you can let everyone do their own/do what they care about.

Friday, February 27, 2009 04:32 PM

sometimes toilets don't ever get cleaned, it's treated the same as an outhouse but with less accumulation

how long would you have to leave it before he would complain?

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