to be somewhat fair, the fact that women are SO picky and sensitive does often mean that when a woman gets together with a guy who can meet any of her idiosyncrasies with any degree of success that fact alone will give him some leverage. BTW when I say the woman decides everything this often takes the form of the man deciding what he knows she wants him to decide or picks from a range of what he knows are acceptable options to her. REAL decision making means you can make a decision which is costly and/or genuinely disturbing to the other party and have the other party accept it and like it and you. Given social and economic gender equality its pretty much only women who have this kind of power.

I'm sure you noticed but I think its worth pointing out anyway: None of the people who are interpreting it differently are willing to display equivalent open mindedness. American feminist prudery is not just a cultural norm but is the absolute truth everywhere for everyone at all times and anyone who doesn't see it that way is supporting the abuse and oppression of women, period.

but of course they always want to

like they are now if the guy wears clashing colors or whatever. Obviously a woman can wear make up or not and wear whatever she likes and she still socially exists; yes doing it right might give a marginal competitive advantage but it isn't the difference between social existence and non existence as this sort of thing often is with men.

this strategy generally works ok as mitigation UNTIL a couple has kids. There's no way anyone is going to be happy letting the other person make the wrong decisions for their kids.

It's funny, but women do seem to believe this and blame men for it, even though it is only other women who care. At the same time women are sometimes bugged with men for not noticing/caring enough (it is true that things which directly effect the perception of the attractiveness of the face and body can matter to men but this is a TINY piece of the overall fashion picture).

Those things are:

1) Amount of fat

2) Amount of muscle tone

3) Whether anybody can see it.

3a) Skin quality

Nothing else matters to men, body wise. It is true that makeup can affect how attractive facial features and skin appear.

I'd think there might be an account somewhere but I've never come across one.

and women should fight wars with hand held weapons. Thanks to technology it might now for the first time in history be physically possible, in theory, for the equivalent to be done but whether it really would work in practice and how many people really are interested in trying it remains to be seen. It seems there are some though.

it will be interesting I guess. My guess is that if you try and push men into all the traditional feminine roles they will tend to withdraw and even if they don't I don't think most women will be capable of taking a man seriously at any level when he is playing an exclusively domestic role.

since, given the fact that men and women are not the same men will never see everything exactly the same way as women, hence in the absence of REAL power men will ALWAYS suck (the only qualification here is, how submissive are men prepared to be in their desperation to get laid, and no matter how much it is will it be enough).

That is because you are a woman and therefore you don't have to deal with anyone who disagrees with you about anything important (or at least not in the same way as when men and women deal with each other) and if by some chance this does happen you will most likely, if you are like most women, go without or await other opportunities. If men pursue this strategy most will wait forever, so they don't pursue it.

but in an androgynous society this is about all that men can hope for.

i.e. a willingness to make REAL sacrifices for sex and love and LIKE it, men have to have REAL power/accomplishment/something different from what women have/can do for themselves and in an androgynous society men can't really do this. So they are forced to rely on being "sensitive" "enlightened" etc. etc. which DOES (sometimes)stimulate genuine female interest but the problem is that as soon as he disagrees with her about anything he is no longer sensitive and enlightened and therefore no longer of interest.

ok I don't know if that is going to hurt her with swing voters. What is kind of funny is that the only people it might be a real negative to are her hard core fundie supporters, but THEY can't very well reject her. PROVIDED THEY LOSE BIG, and drag down lots of Republican congresspersons and governors with them I can definitely see a slight upside here; a further discrediting of the hypocritical posturing of both the hysterical anti sex fundie right and the prudish authoritarian feminist left.

now it really is a global village. If your name is on it, assume ANYONE can know about it.

Why is it though that women can still get all kinds of respect even when they totally suck.

They may want to delay if for THEMSELVES when they are individually called upon to make a decision where the reality is brought home to them by the fact that they are faced with an individual personal threat but that doesn't mean that they are interested in delaying it for other people that they don't know or care about.