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Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:16 AM
Original article: U.K. to criminalize johns

"there is no freedom without security" this sums it up well

as long as male sexuality is not identical to female sexuality, or at least as long as men are not forced to behave as though it is, women are not secure and therefore not free so whatever it takes to accomplish this is merely a defense of womens freedom.

Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:24 AM
Original article: U.K. to criminalize johns

It doesn't make sense to pretend that "rights" are never in conflict. Sometimes they just are. I prefer to balance those rights on the side of greater harmony, civility, safety, and peace.

You are right about this, the problem is that neither you nor any one else apparently are willing to apply this method to gender issues. The need to justify this refusal is why there is so much political attachment to the idea that all gender is a social construct even though everyone knows it isn't. How else could you justify the refusal.

Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:56 AM
Original article: U.K. to criminalize johns

women seem unable to accept, unless they are forced too, the fact that male sexuality is different from female sexuality, and yes the willingness/desire to buy sex is a manifestation of those differences

all freedom in fact is a trade off: if you are free then there is the possibility that you will do something I don't like and vice versa. The only way one person, or one group, can be free of the possibility of being displeaesed by someone else is if everyone else is a slave.

Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:27 AM
Original article: Correction on Sarah Palin

I don't like her veiws and I probably don't really like her, but when I see her and listen to her, without thinking about what she is actually saying, I kind of DO like her.

In fact I strongly suspect that because she is a pretty girl Glen feels much sorrier for her than he would feel for a male, pretty or not, in the same situation. I'm not saying there would be NO somewhat similar reaction but I doubt it would be the same, at least it isn't for me. This kind of thing is biologically based, deal with it, denial is pointless.

Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:53 PM

The rise of porn in America is the result of female empowerment + the rejection of any limits placed on women's behavior.

This is a weird statement. Rather than trying to sort it all out I would think the fact that gay male porn in a huge industry should make it crystal clear to anyone that male sexual interest is what drives the porn industry.

Thursday, September 25, 2008 12:58 PM
Original article: U.K. to criminalize johns

I don't care if you express your sexuality all that you want as long as you do it with consenting adult partners and off the street.

You may not care but law enforcement certainly does. That is why they are constantly busting girls who hook and their customers on craigslist. Outlawing street prostitution and enforcing laws against harassment and letting people conduct their business in private is a great idea and the laws should reflect this understanding that we both have. Unfortunately you and I are in a tiny minority of those who care about the issue.

Thursday, September 25, 2008 01:05 PM
Original article: U.K. to criminalize johns

the problem "broadsheet trolls" have is the a lot of women want to use every power including the law

not just to preserve what a rational person would define as everyones rights but to force everyone to live the way they want them to in order to create a "moral" or in this case "non oppressive to women" society. The virtually universal feminist consensus in favor of using the law to suppress prostitution conducted IN PRIVATE by CONSENTING ADULTS is a perfect example of this mentality which is very little different in its essence, (and at least in one particular i.e heterosexual sex) from that of Moslem or Christian fundamentalists.

Thursday, September 25, 2008 01:08 PM
Original article: U.K. to criminalize johns

Broadsheet trolls have is that they don't understand that women get to say no and that if there are not enough prostitutes to willingly service the so-called "needs" of men women still get to say no

I don't think anyone has ever said or implied otherwise. I certainly never have. Where are you getting this.

Thursday, September 25, 2008 01:19 PM
Original article: U.K. to criminalize johns

if people were free to conduct business online there would be no reason for street prostitution to exist

at all

Thursday, September 25, 2008 01:23 PM
Original article: U.K. to criminalize johns

as long as male sexuality is not identical to female sexuality, or at least as long as men are not forced to behave as though it is, women are not secure and therefore not free

I don't believe it is true, but it seems that a lot of women do, whether they are willing to acknowledge what the logical consequences of their stated views and policy preferences are is of course an entirely different matter.

Thursday, September 25, 2008 01:29 PM

the french wine industry has govt. enforced standards and wine which doesn't meet them can't be labled a certain way, we need the same thing for porn and rule NUMBER ONE should be:

NO male porn actor is EVER AllOWED to touch his own dick. If I want to see that I don't have to pay for it.

Thursday, September 25, 2008 05:32 PM

ride public transit once and a while and you'll see women everywhere twitching in their seats as they read about some fictional adonis

You're damn right you don't hear men complaining about it when they see this.

Friday, September 26, 2008 12:02 AM

This woman got one of the longest posts I've seen on Broadsheet and she manages to not mention evolutionary implications once

I guess you haven't heard: the fields of evolutionary biology or sociobiology, at least as they relate to gender and sexuality in human beings, are ideologies designed to validate traditional gender roles and as such can not possibly have any validity.

Friday, September 26, 2008 09:33 AM

joint decision making is easy when one makes the decision the other likes, but

what happens when they don't?

Friday, September 26, 2008 09:36 AM

Why do I get the feeling that if the numbers 43 and 26 above were reversed, that would be the interesting thing around here

and that 31% means he makes the decision she wants him to because you can be SURE that if he ever made a decision she didn't like she would MAKE SURE that neither of them would ever describe the decision making as shared.

Friday, September 26, 2008 10:49 AM

you will notice that in a lot of discussions of this type there has been a shift, women are still oppressed but the nature of the "oppression" is different

it isn't possible to even plausibly pretend that American men exert any control over women, but women are still oppressed by the fact that men don't do everything that women want them to the way that women want them to.

Friday, September 26, 2008 12:07 PM

I think you are right, but its going to be very difficult for men and women to get on the same page

due to the fact that for biological reasons sex/sexual attraction is different for women than for men. The only way that progress could occur, I think, is if EVERYONE involved were able to recognize that THEIR particular emotional responses, while important, are not everything. What are the chances there I wonder.

Friday, September 26, 2008 12:47 PM

are men in traditional cultures this way because they feel that women are inferior and they enjoy sexually humiliating them

or are men "unnaturally" hypersexual because they are starved for feminine interaction, or because they are "unnaturally" dominant due to support from their culture or are they just acting like normal men in the absence of an environment where testosterone is "unnaturally" suppressed due to the low social status of men and and the fact that men are inhibited out of fear that their status and prospects will decline even further if they are not. What sort of evidence does exist or can exist that would shed genuine light rather than just a confirmation of preconceived ideas. I CAN think of one aspect of the situation that I think everyone probably can agree is universal and that might serve as a starting point: men, no matter what their beliefs or situation NEVER feel that women are too sexual with them individually, they may feel that women are too sexual in general or with other men but they always have a positive reaction to a female sexual response to them personally, it may be overridden in some cases by fanatical beliefs but it is always there.

Friday, September 26, 2008 01:05 PM

get if off the street and out of public view altogether then by letting women do their business online

then they could refuse to do business with anyone who wasn't REALLY nice to them and the public realm could be as asexual as you would like. The only thing preventing this change from being made are the voters, the majority of whom are women.

Saturday, September 27, 2008 01:58 AM

fear is probably the wrong word but no woman has to worry that if she wears clashing colors the man will be put off sex for a week or a month

since men do have to worry about women responding this way and since it extends to everything in their environment it is MUCH EASIER to let the woman decide everything.

Saturday, September 27, 2008 02:29 AM

it doesn't seem like a stretch to say that most of our culture is a femdom scene

what is modern feminism but women making nonsensical and contradictory demands and men willingly trying to carry them out or else.

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