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Tuesday, May 13, 2008 02:31 PM

nternational borders, all of them everywhere have always been porous

They may all be porous to some degree but their are real variations in the degree of porosity which have have very real effects. Are you saying that it would make no difference to the situation in say, Israel, if there were no barriers between Gaza and Israel or the west bank and Israel, to pick one of an infinite number of possible examples.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:33 AM

maybe increased suspicion of their would be protectors

cancels out any tendency that PTSDers have to make sacrifices in order to be protected.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 02:26 PM

Please remember that the court decision Roe v. Wade rests upon the assumption that a right of privacy is implicit in our constitution.

This is a common misconception, unfortunately RwW was NOT based on the right to privacy, it should have been, but it wasn't. It was based on equal protection: if women don't have a "choice" about pregnancy they can't be "equal". This argument is both legally and culturally vulnerable. Maybe now that the court HAS held that a right to privacy exists (the texas sodomy case) we will have a chance to get the right to abortion established on a more secure legal footing. A right to privacy might be problematic though for some abortion rights supporters because it would at least open the door to the argument that people have the right to engage in consensual porn or consensual prostitution or whatever.

Friday, May 16, 2008 07:41 AM

the difference that matters here is that it is no longer acceptable in polite society to hold that EVERYTHING worth knowing women can learn from men but it IS acceptable for women to hold that men can learn everything important there is to learn

from women.

Friday, May 16, 2008 08:28 AM
Original article: Quote of the Day

there is no question, among people who can be rational on the subject, that she got "special" treatment the only question is

how much of it was due to her being a woman and how much of it was due to her being a Clinton.

Friday, May 16, 2008 11:50 AM
Original article: High-tech street harassment

I didn't read it TOO carefully but wasn't this "harassment" a way for both sexes

to evade the authorities and communicate.

Friday, May 16, 2008 01:53 PM

civil unions for everyone/anyone, religious belief/practice/ceremony/blessing is your own private business

this is the right way to go on so many levels.

Friday, May 16, 2008 04:24 PM

However, that lack of knowledge never stopped male writers from writing about women--or pretending they knew enough about women to write about them.

No but it does prevent them from being taken seriously now.

"you just don't like it that someone else gets to give their version of you"

No we don't like it that we aren't allowed to give a version of ourselves that conflicts with your agenda without being accused of nefarious motives or subjected to a smear and silencing campaign. Case in point: sexuality.

Sunday, May 18, 2008 01:15 PM
Original article: Quote of the Day

People disliked Marie Antoinette too, but not because she was a woman, because she was associated with a political regime and a way of thinking that was being rejected by many for very practical reasons.

This may be a little late and maybe beside the point but I can't resist: actually they DID dislike her and DID treat her worse more quickly than otherwise would have been the case because she was a woman (and a "foreigner"). Of course these weren't the only factors or even the biggest factors and they would be very hard to truly sort out but they played a role. It is an interesting example actually but if looked at in any detail it actually suggests the opposite of what it is being cited to support.

Sunday, May 18, 2008 01:21 PM
Original article: Quote of the Day

Why are those two situations so distasteful, and so iconic? Because women having power over men to tell them what to do? Not rare, but not so commonplace as to not be a referenced image.

Are you suggesting that if women were more often telling men what to do (if that is possible) that the reaction would be less. I think your analysis is somewhat on target except for the truly bizarre claim that what makes the idea resonate is that the situation is, supposedly, somewhat uncommon.

Monday, May 19, 2008 12:21 PM
Original article: Gender lessons

anonymous too at the end of the quote of the day thread actually explained the situation pretty well

in typical feminist/female supremacist fashion of course she blamed male lack of creativity/intelligence/insight/whatever for the situation rather than admitting that status and accomplishment is/always was/always will be necessary for biological survival for males in a way that it is not/never was/never will be for females, but it's at least a partial acknowledgment of reality, which is something, but not much actually.

Monday, May 19, 2008 12:23 PM
Original article: Gender lessons

it was at the end of the thread on reading lists

not quote of the day.

Monday, May 19, 2008 01:46 PM
Original article: Gender lessons

dolores I guess I wasn't clear, I was referring not to the practicalities of physical survival but to the fact that men need to prove themselves to women in order to have sex and women do not have to prove themselves to men

this is the biological survival I was referring to.

Monday, May 19, 2008 02:04 PM

The drive to build a better fake girlfriend isn't going away, apparently

Since self sufficient women can't be GENUINELY attracted i.e willing to make REAL compromises and REAL sacrifices in order to maintain the relationship (as ALL men MUST do to maintain ANY relationship with ANY woman) to men less accomplished than they are which results in the proportion of the male population of interest to the average female continually shrinking it seems very likely that it isn't going away.

Monday, May 19, 2008 09:34 PM
Original article: Gender lessons

the point is dolores that because men HAVE to be socially and economically succesful in order to have women sleep with them and women DO NOT have to do/be those things in order to have sex

men have a certain emotional attachment/obsession/whatever (in this case vicarious) to high social status/rank/money/success that goes WAY beyond any practical or rational considerations that women do not. Obviously women can have their own emotional attachment to success too, since once they have all the money they need they are free to do ANYTHING they want (a situation which men, even rich ones, can only dream of. see Eliot Spitzer) but even so the desperation level is different.

Monday, May 19, 2008 09:38 PM

this should actually make it clear that this is about contol of everyones sexuality by the prudishly "religious"

not a conspiracy against women.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 01:32 PM

larger role doesn't mean that other factors play no role or an insignificant role

so it is erroneous to imply that the presence of a more influential factor means that other things don't matter(of course it is all about plausible deniability anyway: if most males are uneducated blue collar workers it just means more women will be in the positions of authority that they should be in anyway).

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 01:39 PM

I think it is theoretically possible for a woman to be interesting enough that a male will be willing to stick with her

alone, but for this to have ANY chance of working voluntarily when the man has options at least three factors would have to exist:

1)He is STRONGLY attracted to her to start with

2)They are compatible in other ways

3)She is very into him sexually and stays that way.

Obviously the chances of this all coming together are not very good.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 01:47 PM

it's not that women are lazy it's that they don't care that much about sex and even if they do they don't have to be successful at work to get it.

if women couldn't complain about men or eat chocolate unless they made partner at that Wall Street law firm THEN you would see what women can do if they are truly motivated. It would also give them some insight into why men are the way they are about work, money and sex.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 01:56 PM

any woman can find all the free male partners on craigslist that she wants that she can vet at her convenience all WITHOUT revealing her identity

so any woman who says they would do it if it were "more acceptable" (yeah it was really accepted when Spitzer did it wasn't it) is either lying or is just talking out of their ass and doesn't REALLY want to do anything. Because if they want to NOTHING is stopping them.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 02:04 PM
Original article: Gender lessons

Military misogyny is too ingrained and institutionalized. The culture must change. (I had hoped having a female commander in chief would be a good start.)

It won't make any difference when it does happen. If the military doesn't like/care about the president they go on their own way without being influenced at all. Just like they did when Clinton was president. I'm not saying things won't change over time but it won't be because the president is, or isn't, female.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:13 PM

boys can be beaten into sitting quietly while most girls love to sit quietly and dote on powerful females i.e teachers

the fact that boys can be made to sit still doesn't mean that there isn't a problem.

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