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Monday, March 31, 2008 12:40 PM

you are right, men want it more so they should be willing to pay, and they are

the problem is the idiots, liars and deniers that won't admit this. In addition to the fairness issue here there are real consequences when someone has to pay a high price for something and/or accept shoddy goods. You can suppress the discussion if you want but doing that won't make ALL of the consequences go away, is it possible that there could be some value in someone, somewhere, telling the truth.

Monday, March 31, 2008 05:08 PM

want to find out what men really think of condoms? make a male pill available.

THAT is going to be fun to watch, if I live long enough.

Monday, March 31, 2008 05:41 PM

I know, but there will 1000x greater resistance to using them than there is now. Nobody intends to sleep with a diseased woman and without the threat of parenthood

it's not worth it to exchange good sex for barely better than nothing sex. If it ever happens you will see that I am right, but who knows how long it will be.

Monday, March 31, 2008 05:51 PM

the diseased hybrid to which you refer has been around for a long time, in fact I think it can reasonably be argued

that it has never NOT been around. There are only variations in emphasis.

Monday, March 31, 2008 06:46 PM

I would very much like to know what people in the past REALLY thougt, but there is no way to

There seem to be a lot of hints though that people were REQUIRED to profess certain views in public; if people were "naturally" "moral" why so much effort to promote and impose "morality".

Monday, March 31, 2008 07:00 PM

pointing out the problems with female contraception and how unpleasant they are, and not one...not ONE acknowledgement from a male poster of their predicament.

This is an absolute and total lie. Read my posts.

Monday, March 31, 2008 07:09 PM

confucious you remind me

of the "pro-sex" virgins

Monday, March 31, 2008 08:59 PM

are women being forced to choose between the pill and sex?

my impression is that women who have problems with the pill don't take it. It seems doubtful to me that any man would refuse to use a condom and risk getting stuck with 20 years of child support if a woman told him she wasn't on the pill because of the side effects. You seem to be suggesting that all or most women have problems with the pill, I don't think this is the case especially if they try different ones.

Monday, March 31, 2008 09:01 PM

if women don't want to use any form of birth control but condoms nothing is stopping them

maybe some women don't have problems with the pill and prefer it.

Monday, March 31, 2008 10:11 PM

although I think plenty of women DO have issues with the pill, but many of them use it anyway, either to "please" their men or because they've been convinced that it's their obligation to do so.

I seriously doubt it. Women can:

take the pill and have sex (with or without condoms)

not take the pill and rely on condoms

not have sex

I don't think there is any reason to believe that women don't pick the one they want and do it. I don't see anything that would constrain their ability to choose whichever of those alternatives that they prefer. Since there is no problem, what is the problem.

Monday, March 31, 2008 10:54 PM

This whole long diatribe does nothing for the important middle ground. A place where both young men and woman can live without feeling pressure one way or the other

If you are male there is always internal pressure, as someone pointed out the only choice which is absolute is no, yes requires the cooperation of other(s). So those who prefer no to yes always have "more choice".

Tuesday, April 1, 2008 11:28 AM
Original article: Who's your daddy?

of course giving people power they didn't have before will always be disruptive the question is what is that standard for judging the disruption

if any of the disruptions associated with increasing female power always are shown by a completely objective cost benefit analysis to be worth it and any disruptions caused by increasing male power always are shown by a completely objective cost benefit analysis to NOT be worth it, well I guess the completely objective analysis speaks for itself.

Tuesday, April 1, 2008 11:39 AM

I think we agree that it is probably a miracle that men and women ever get together, if women felt as little during sex as men do with a condom

they CERTAINLY never would.

Tuesday, April 1, 2008 02:02 PM
Original article: Make mine a Mrs. Robinson!

Who have you got your eyes on? Robert Redford? Paul Newman? Bill Clinton?

It's nice to see you trying to stick by your principles, but really, don't you think a survey of women's responses to these OLD guys would make it pretty clear that treating everything as equal/the same just doesn't always fit reality. Or maybe that is your point.

Tuesday, April 1, 2008 03:23 PM

I REALLY wish a male pill were in use

So much verbiage would be superseded by facts on the "ground". It will be something to see alright. If it is ever allowed to happen.

Tuesday, April 1, 2008 06:05 PM

Um, dick? From a physical standpoint, women don't feel much during sex. Activities requiring condoms rarely stimulate the clitoris directly. Penetration means reduced sensation for women, unless the couple takes active steps to remedy this

They may be a minority, but there are A LOT of women who get off, figuratively AND literally, on penetrative sex (yes I mean when they are on the receiving end). Discussing THIS fact of course is also taboo.

Tuesday, April 1, 2008 06:21 PM

so beth I take it that women should enhance the masculine side of themselves and men should enhance their feminine side

until men and women are the same? are you sure you want to stop there? do you really believe this is possible without medical intervention? are you in favor of THAT if necessary?

Tuesday, April 1, 2008 09:35 PM

it doesn't need to last forever, just long enough for atmospheric co2 to reach the right level

no one is stupid enough to belive that we would do this so 9 billion people can drive hummers...ok, well maybe there is a problem.

Tuesday, April 1, 2008 09:45 PM

people obviously prefer the right real thing

if they can get it, failing that however some fakes are better than others. Obviously, considering what people pay.

Tuesday, April 1, 2008 09:48 PM

LuLaBuLa if male dolls don't exist it is only because the market isn't there.

I suspect they may however, although maybe not, since any woman or gay man can find at least an average person to fuck.

Tuesday, April 1, 2008 09:53 PM

actually it WOULD balance out tina if women REALLY wanted to take action

but they don't.

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 12:48 AM

male contraception will change everything because women can no longer claim to be taking on more burdens or risk

they both risk disease but if he is willing to trust her she can't pretend that he is asking for anything he isn't willing to give. It changes the entire dynamic of the discussion.

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 12:08 PM

maybe petroleum is made use of by, and maybe it even strengthens, the "patriarchs"

but there are plenty of moslem societies (and others) where women are dominated by men.

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 12:16 PM

I've never fucked a woman who was wearing a female condom, but the theory is that loss of friction

is the problem and so whoever has the thing attached to them is the one who loses out. For me personally this isn't really the problem, it's the loss of sensation derived from direct contact so for me I don't think there would be much difference. Obviously most men CAN get off wearing condoms and since women have so much trouble I can understand why they don't see it as a problem, but shouldn't the goal be for everyone to have good sex, not for everyone to have equally bad sex.

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 12:25 PM
Original article: Make mine a Mrs. Robinson!

I'm dubious that FILFs will ever be as popular with women as MILFs are with men

but it is interesting that a lot of the specific examples being provided of why this is true seem to be coming from men. It may seem funny for me to be saying this, but really in this case it is true, male opinions on male attractiveness really are totally meaningless.

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 12:37 PM

economic necessity only creates certain kinds of changes, some are helpful but some are not

the only time you have a society worth living in for most people is when there is enough "surplus" wealth that those who have it can allow some of it to be spread around. Obviously this isn't the only requirement, but if you only treat better the people you are forced by necessity to treat better lots of people won't be treated better.

Wednesday, April 2, 2008 12:47 PM

it's actually pretty simple men have given up telling women what to do or trying to make them do anything they don't want to do

but strangely enough women seen utterly disinclined to return the favor. The best one I've hear recently was the attempt of feminists to OUTLAW men testing the paternity of their (alleged)children without the mothers consent. How can anyone really dispute my point when these sorts of proposals are taken seriously.

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