Let me put it to you this way. While you're making enemies, we'll make friends. Fifty years from now, the loser buys the drinks.

-- William Timberman

Define winner and loser. Would the winner be praying to Mecca five times a day? Like I say, the only unilateral way to peace is surrender. Is that what you have in mind as a winning strategy? Just asking because I haven't heard any sort of strategy from your side other than blaming conservatives for all ills in the world.

-- shooter242

Is this what people need to be filling up these pages with? Debating with someone who actually perceives a risk that the U.S. is in danger of 'surrendering' to an Islamic Caliphate and we risk in 50 years being forced to pray to Mecca 5 times a day?

If someone here raises a truly interesting point worthy of debate, then by all means, debate it.

But if someone declares in a snide aside that "What are you liberals going to do when the mole-men hatch from their lava eggs and start forcing the human women to bear their larval children?", do the readers of this blog really have to fill up 50 pages to respond to such mentally ill paranoia?

Lava, eggs, fire -- takes me back to the Easters of my youth.

Was it not written in the Rig Veda:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv04056.htm

HYMN LVI. Heaven and Earth.

1. MAY mighty Heaven and Earth, most meet for honour, be present here with light and gleaming splendours;

When, fixing them apart, vast, most extensive, the Steer roars loudly in far-reaching courses.

2 The Goddesses with Gods, holy with holy, the Two stand pouring out their rain, exhaustless:

Faithful and guileless, having Gods for children, leaders of sacrifice with shining splendours.

3 Sure in the worlds he was a skilful Craftsman, he who produced these Twain the Earth and Heaven.

Wise, with his power he brought both realms, together spacious and deep, wellfashioned, unsupported.

4 O Heaven and Earth, with one accord promoting, with high protection as of Queens, our welfare,

Far-reaching, universal, holy, guard us. May we, car-borne, through song be victors ever.

5 To both of you, O Heaven and Earth, we bring our lofty song of praise,

Pure Ones! to glorify you both.

6 Ye sanctify each other's form, by your own proper might ye rule,

And from of old observe the Law.

7 Furthering and fulfilling, ye, O Mighty, perfect Mitra's Law.

Ye sit around our sacrifice.