...and this prompts the Israeli militarist cheerleaders on the blog to either claim that Abe Foxman is, you know, just one guy expressing his opinion, or to suggest that what's more important is that there are other people elsewhere or elsewhen who really are anti-Semitic.

Yes, he's one guy, but he's a director of a prestigious, well-funded, and highly media-accessible lobbying and rights group, and he's falsely accusing a media figure of the most scurrilous charges. That's not just one guy speaking his opinion. It's an attempt to remove any political and social context from how lobbying and complaints work.

These are the standards of debate you used to see among the ultra-right lunatic Cuban exile leadership of southern Florida, who would accuse you of being a Castro stooge if you didn't fault Fidel Castro's evil influence for each and every sparrow that fell.

And their silly, decades-old red-baiting starts to fail when you have the U.S. Chamber of Commerce flatly opposing the U.S. embargo against Cuba.

Thankfully the lunatic ultra-right Cuban exile leadership has been drastically losing sway over the both their own community and the U.S. political environment.

One can only hope that the militarist lobby regarding Israel will similarly begin to lose sway, and yield to people who actually give a damn about Israeli lives, maybe even Palestinian lives.

The Muslim Brotherhood don't seem to have been the assassins of Sadat, that appears to have been Egypt's Islamic Jihad, but it was the sort of thing they very well might have done if IJ hadn't; but the Brotherhood did frequently try to assassinate Nasser before Sadat.

I wasn't suggesting that Mubarak (or Egyptian people in general) had no reason to fear the Brotherhood, in fact they very much do -- just that this is a major, major factor conditioning Mubarak's actions.

They are most clearly Islamic fundamentalists, and want complete theocratic rule. The problem is that continual ham-handed policy in the region may make it more, rather than less necessary, that Egypt's semi-democracy will turn more toward them; they already control about a fifth of the legislature. They would have had much more power if Mubarak hadn't completely carried out anti-democratic measures.

Whenever you're full of sh*t, like saying Jordan slaughter 20,000 Palestinians (Arafat's claim, unsupported by any evidence), I will 'correct' you. Stop claiming you know what you're talking about.

And while you're at it, you still haven't explained your idiotic sarcasm that David Irving exists, which in no way supports idiot Foxman's slurs against Bill Moyers.

A lot of cowards seek to avoid debate about their favored government or policy. One way to do so is to falsely accuse someone of anti-Semitic attitudes; there are many other ways -- some here accuse anyone defending Israeli militarism as being hired by the Mossad or AIPAC. The fact that there are occasional examples of each is why the charges are so frequently falsely thrown.

Johnny Chrome is correct that a representative of Jordan should always offer the context of the Jordanian-PLO war in which PLO attempts to run their own mini-state in defiance of Jordanian state rule let to an assassination attempt against King Hussein and a war, in which several thousand Palestinians were killed, many slaughtered.

JC may be mixing up the 'Black September' 1970 war between the Jordanian state and Palestinian guerrillas, which killed several thousand Palestinians, with the Syrian attack on the city of Hama in 1982 which perhaps tens of thousands were killed when an attack on the regime-defying Muslim Brotherhood (Islamic extremists) was carried out against a surrounded, besieged city which was shelled to the ground, ostensibly to crush the Brotherhood's base of operations.

Incidentally, the Muslim Brotherhood was established in Egypt, and is still continually at the heels of the Mubarak regime.

The more that chaos and paramilitarism are encouraged in the Gaza Strip, the more the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt can seek anti-state allies which which to go after the Egyptian state.

This is one reason Egypt's tyrant Mubarak has no love for Hamas, and doesn't want Israel to be able to effectively push the Gaza Strip onto Egypt's shoulders. And I would think Israelis would be very concerned about the likely consequences of that, too.

Your implication is correct. Anti-Semites (in the 19th century anti-Jewish meaning) do exist. So do anti-Arab racists and anti-Muslim fanatics. Unfortunately, both have their occasional representatives on any internet blog which appears to in any way discuss Palestine / Israel mattes.

But that has absolutely nothing to do with, say, Foxman's baseless and shameful propagandistic accusations toward Bill Moyers.

What's your point?

While it may be true that her speaking ability, issue grasp, background and status as royalty may have temporarily allowed her to introduce some points out of the typical foreign policy establishment idiocy on Palestine / Israel, don't think for a moment that Noor would remain immune from the propaganda hate machine which would spin up against her if she remains a prominent spokesperson on these issues.