<<"The great thing about that photo leading this article is that from an anthropological standpoint, the country will eventually become non-melanin specific as races inter-marry and reproduce to the point where there is just "us."

I'm sorry I won't live to see that day because all this racial bullshit has been continuing to drag our country down since its inception.">>

I think there's a possibility that you will see the day you hope for. I think it would already be here but for all the dishonest incompetence in the media, and true racists in politics not being hounded out of office by the media, instead of sucking up (or on) them.

In a way, I hope Hillary wins (the presidency), not only because I think she's the best candidate, but because it would be such a smashing defeat of the media, and could help end the careers of so many jerks, like Matthews, Russert and their little constellation of also-rans, or at least, end their credibility quite effectively.

--Ron

Hi Garry,

<<A good case in point tonight Ron, was Soledad O'Brian

She's doing a duo with CNN's main pollster, can't think of his name, and he's talking about the number of Republicans and Democrats who during the exit polls told his teams that it was the economy they were most interested in.

So good ol' Soledad, who has a brain about the size of a cashew, says, "But what about race! Let's look at race!">>

Isn't she the worst? If her brain is a cashew, I'd still say that's oversized for her particular intellectual ability. On second thought, it's pretty hard to decide who's the worst, there's so much competition. Still, she is a good example of what's wrong with the media, since she's such a clear distillation of their current "thinking." In a slightly more rational world, anyone who had her as an employee would be horribly embarrassed, but I think the media moguls we have now are somewhere beyond being embarrassed (or ashamed).

--Ron

<<From Joan Walsh

Thanks for your thoughts, Sean. I do participate more than editors of other large sites. I always have. Are you saying you think that's beneath me? I have never thought so. I think it's part of what makes Salon...Salon.>>

Actually, I don't think that's his point at all. It seemed to me he was amused by what could be taken as your tone, which seemed particularly exasperated.

That said, I disagree with Sean's larger point, which is that Clinton (either of them) have acted in a racist manner. Even the infamous (and in my view, moderately foolish, given the propensity of the media to make shit up, and assign motives they can't possibly know) comment by Clinton about SC I don't think was racist.

We have two very good democratic candidates. I wish more people could see that, and quit making out as evil the one they don't support, or worse, making out as saintly the one they do support. Why do I think the latter is worse? Because you're sure to be deeply disillusioned when/if they actually have the chance to practice what they preach.

Though I don't think this will happen, if Clinton wins the nomination, she'd be very smart to offer, and Obama would be very smart to accept the VP spot. He'd be a particularly good VP (and look at all the VP powers he'd have now, thanks to Cheney, heh heh, since the VP now seems to have more power than the presidency!). 8 years of a Clinton/Obama presidency could very well end both racial and gender bias as any potent force. While I think Obama would be an OK president now, I think in 8 years he could be an extremely good president, one of the best ever. He'd have lots of practical experience, and it'd be wonderful to think we have 16 years ahead of us of a more rational presidency.

I do think Clinton would be the best choice for president now, better now than 8 years from now if my scenario were reversed. I have no illusions she's perfect, and I'm sure there will be plenty I vehemently disagree with her on as a president, but i think she's at the prime of her competency, and she knows her stuff. Like I said, I wouldn't always agree with her conclusions, but i don't have to, overall I am convinced she's what's needed to start the reversal of the nightmarish previous 8 years, moreso than Obama. In oversimplified terms, Clinton's practicality lays the groundwork for Obama's soaring changes (and please, no morons telling me that this means I think Obama is not practical or some other crap I've not stated).

So as a democrat, one can decide: is Obama going to degrade as a candidate in 8 years, or get better? I think he'll get better, in fact, be at his absolute best. I'd rather have him as president when he's at his absolute best.

--Ron