Stop blaming Joan, stop blaming the media and start placing the blame where it belongs, on J. Wright.

-- damnthatxanadu

The fact that Barak associated with the man with utterly poisonous views for two decades says a lot about Barak.

Huh? Can anybody tell me what exactly is the criticism of Wright this time?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/us/politics/28text-wright.html

I've been looking, and all I find are descriptive words, such as "fiery", "angry", "rant" , and "Obama's outraged". Not one quote cited. What's wrong with anything Wright said? The only wrong things I can find is the media reaction , and Obama's "denounciation" of Wright . If anything, Obama should be criticized for the "lyin'- weasel politician" act. ( I know- he has to.) Is there any way we can take Obama off the ballot, and put Wright on? The majority of the media seems convinced he is running , so let's have at it. At least with Wright, we know he has principles, and won't abandon them just because it doesn't fit the MSM's narrative.

Che, it was developed in 19-freakin-92! ( and you know what memory elephants have!;) Updated , periodically, of course, but basically planned then . 9/11 was just a convenient excuse . Search P.N.A.C. It's still ongoing ( see Somalia), and they're not shy about it . 3 wars down (sort of ) 27+/- to go .

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqmiddleeast2000-1997.htm

Re the suicidal vets. I know somone who counsels/treats vets with mental health troubles . Just judging by the emergency calls this person got, before all this started, in the relatively (out of 24/7) short time in my presence, 800/yr seems waaaayyy low . I'll ask what # seems more reasonable at next opportunity. (soon I hope)

""Please remember how popular this disaster was back when America was "victorious." Bush's approval rating was high and most people polled thought the Iraq invasion was a good thing"............

- InterestedReader"

(Don't mean to pick on you in particular , InterestedReader, but you just happened to be the first repeater of this for today's thread .)

Uh,.... no. Back in the beginning it was 20-25% in favor and a similar number opposed, with the rest ambivalent/disinterested. The volume of the "For" camp, plus Bush's high favorable rating, allowed them to be heard more frequently, and in a better light. It only seemed that it was overwhelmingly popular, in part due to the (majority of) MSM m.o., that Glenn often points out .

Thank you Schumer and Feinstein

At this point I'd like to thank Senators Schumer and Feinstein for giving us this asshat AG Mukasey. If it wasn't for you two dumbasses, he never would of been confirmed. Thank you once again.

-- Conservativeslayer

Here's Chuckie's # , in case you also, want to suggest he fix it . 202-224-6542

Was the essential theme of Wright's sermons .

"...God damn America! when it kills innocents! God Bless America when it does good in the world !..."

More to it than that, of course , but his statements in full are much different than the snippets that the MSM & the All-Wright,All-the-Time Network were blathering about.

Kooster , did you bother to listen to more than a few sound bites, or what the talking heads said he said ?

The main thing is his effect on policy . There isn't any . Hagee and Parsley on the other hand might have a big influence . Hagee, in conjunction with others, could get a lot of people killed and maimed , in Iran ,Iraq, Israel , and "Palestine". Hagee's goal is WWIII >Armageddon. Then there's the domestic stuff . That's the difference .

...look at the ad to the right (appropriately) .An ad for The Consevative Book Club . Is that a joke ? By whom , on who ? Hannity, O'Reilly,Coulter,Gingrich, et al trying to sell books on a comment thread about Glenn's book . Damn! The irony's getting thick around here . ;)

I was refering to Glenn's post last week, and other Iraqis' stated positions ,elsewhere, from them directly , that they want us out ASAP. That we're doing more harm than good . I don't care where those opinions are found. Just what they are . Besides, it was partly tongue-in-cheek poking of the proboscus. ;)

"I am basically a centrist (socially liberal, economically conservative, meaning I think we should figure out how to pay for what we decide to legislate)"

With you there, more-or-less. Doesn't it bother you to portayed as "far-left" , while McCain gets "your" label ? Or to keep "your" label , but have it construed as approval of McCain & his positions? That is what Glenn is criticizing.

In case you missed it , on on another thread, thanks for the Rachid Taha video . Never heard of him before . Good stuff, when he's sober . Found some other videos, such as Khaled,with whom I was familiar,from the Taha video.

Used them the next day , in fact . Some pant-wetting RWers kept getting hysterical about the scary Arabs/Muslims/Terr-rists on a PAA/FISA thread . So rather than argue with them I posted some videos of Taha,Khaled,Faudel, and Diana Hadad, with the message "Here's some "terrorists" that need watching" . lol Didn't expect much, but have the remote hope that eventually somebody's cartoonish view might get adjusted .(See Khaled's audience in Oran,Algeria,for ex., and Khaled himself. He is soooooooo scary. ) Anyway, just wanted to thank you, and let you know your potential contribution to less war/fear - mongering .

But McCain actually wants to fix it.

Elephantman, do the Iraqis get any say about being "fixed"? If so , Obama's their guy.

LWM, I hadn't heard of that. No doubt accurate political descriptions would be mind-numbing for most, in part because so many pols are opportunistically inconsistent. It would be nice though, to expand it just a little bit beyond our current two-dimensionality. I suspect part of the problem is that most of the punditry aren't exactly bright lights, or much interested in thinking, or the work of researching politicians.