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...you're conflating several different things. In a way, your doublespeak is fascinating. You constantly decry bigotry against Jews and anti-Israeli sentiment in general, but yet, you have no problem whatsoever in bigottedly lumping all Muslims together.
Btw, you might want to check your polls because while I'm not sure about Indonesia or Pakistan, Israel does have decent to good relations with Turkey, Jordan and India, but I guess since all Muslims are alike and can be judged by the worst actions of some of them, unlike other people, your selective polling excerpts trump reality.
"It is no secret that they are in fact a proxy Iranian army, but we can leave that out for the moment and consider them a branch of the Lebanese army."
Iran certainly supports them but if that makes them a "proxy Iranian" amry then the substantial US support of the IDF should make them a "proxy American" army, right? Considering Hezbollah a branch of the Lebanese army is simply absurd reasoning.
"Soldiers wear uniforms, and live apart from the civilian population to prevent the horrible loss of innocent life."
Nope. The primary reason soldiers live apart from the civilian population is because of simple logistics. It's much easier and makes much more sense to house and train soldiers and stage large scale military exercises in a separate area away from a large civilian population. I'd imaging it would be difficult to conduct say.... tank and flight training and in and over Tel Aviv.
"The enemy wears no uniforms, hides among civilians, and has vowed to wipe you off the map. What do you do?"
Well, after engaging in several years of tit for tat cross border attacks with said enemy, I'd wait for them to capture a couple of my soldiers and then lauch a naval blockade of the entire country, bomb the airport of the major city, neighborhoods in major cities along with the television stations and other communication facilities as well as the major roadways and bridges in and out of those cities. But first, I'd drop leaflets warning of my attack.
"KStone, the same Pew research study I quoted has the poll numbers. I didn't make them up. If you would just look at the PDF you could see for yourself."
Actually cardshark, I'm not doubting your polling information. I just have an issue with the application of it. You take particular pains to point out anti-Jewish sentiment, and I suppose anti-Israeli sentiment, among certain Muslims populations as part of a "clash of civilizations" ideology and to lump them all together, but you ignore that at least 3 out of the 5 countries you mentioned (Jordan, Turkey and India) all have decent relations with Israel. It doesn't seem to make sense to ignore that in favor of your polling information. They all have a "not favorable opinion" of Jews yet they have good relations with Israel? Doesn't follow.
"Other Major Findings...
● Concerns over Islamic extremism are widely shared in Western publics and Muslim
publics alike. But an exception is China, where 59% express little or no concern over
Islamic extremism.
● Muslims differ over whether there is a struggle in their country between Islamic
fundamentalists and groups wanting to modernize society. But solid majorities of those
who perceive such a struggle side with the modernizers.
● Fully 41% of the general public in Spain says most or many Muslims in their country
support Islamic extremists. But just 12% of Spain’s Muslims say most or many of the
country’s Muslims support extremists like al Qaeda.
● Nearly four-in-ten Germans (37%), and 29% of Americans, say there is a natural conflict
between being a devout Christian and living in a modern society."
Cardshark, you're being a bit shady. The Pew study is quite a nuanced report. Shame on you for trying to use it to promote your propaganda. Anyway, you're the one saying it until you're blue in the face. The fact of the matter remains that most of the countries you listed, in particular Jordan, that have populations with unfavorable opinions of Jews do in fact have good relations with Israel. I don't know how to help you out with that one.
"As for your quote from Moshe Dayan, considering he died in 1981, it's kind of interesting how he was able to give an interview with the Washington Post in 1999.
A seance, perhaps?"
I guess it never occured to you that the Dayan quote used in the Washington Post article, was either from an earlier interview with them or from elsewhere as opposed to a 1999 interview with the Washington Post.