Bye Bea!

- welcomerain-- this isn't the place or the time.

But since you mentioned it: that article was waaay too kind to "Obama's Boys." They were far more vicious, ignorant and women-hating than depicted.

Have you considered separating from your husband? It sounds like your boring marriage is driving you to drink. It also sounds like your husband has become a bit of a crutch for you as he helps keep you safely in your mutual rut.

I'm not saying break out the divorce papers right away. But the kids are grown now so it might be time to try a trial separation.

Now look what you've done, Broadsheet! Anytime you bring up the violent Baldwin brother, the Dead-Beat Dad Society starts flooding in.

There is no such thing as "Parental Alienation." It's a lie, made up by a known pedophile, and promoted by abusive men who DON'T WANT TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT.

Got it? Good.

I also notice how people often try to white wash-- or ignore-- Baldwin's threats to his daughter. Calling her a "pig" is horrifying enough. Threatening her physically, which is what he absolutely did, is inexcusable. He is obviously an violent man and his ex-wife (or her Lawyer) were right to expose him. Abusive men should not be protected through silence.

The people who took pictures of abuse of prisoners did not do so to expose abuse. People in the military were sending pictures like these to each other and also home--for entertainment purposes. They sent them to friends and family who gloated and laughed over the abuse and degradation of the other (prisoners). People get a kick out of Max Hardcore's work in the very same way. They get a thrill from the abuse and degradation of the other, but in this case the other is female (women).

Bush and company wouldn't get away with torture if Americans refused to accept it. But in all honestly, a hell of a lot of Americans think torture is A-OK. They pay good money to jerk off to it.

We've become a brutal and sadistic nation. Or perhaps we always have been and now it's just more evident, I don't know. But I do know a nation that approves of "movies" depicting women being orally raped to the point of vomiting and then being forced to eat their own vomit (one of Hardcore's specialties) is going to react to the abuse of suspected criminals/terrorists with a yawn.

Someone up thread mentioned the Saw movie series. I'd say that's connected too.

I do have to take issue with your assertion that Hardcore's work is fiction. It is not fiction. It's real and right there in front of you and people get off watching it. That's a big part of this problem.